Americans period are "better off" than the rest of the world. The bottom class of US residents is better off than most of the world. $20k a year puts you in the worldwide "1%".

It’s ok if y’all think things will only get better. I’m fine with the future. I’ll have a job regardless of the outcome.

I just feel bad for all the middle class workers who will lose their job to automation and don’t have any skills or college degrees to get by

Tbh it happens. People need to learn to save and stock up. As sad as that sounds

I would assume many of you also have good jobs. I would assume some of you have college degrees. Maybe I’m doing too much by thinking of others.

the problem isnt automation in itself. the problem we need to avoid is shocking the greater economy with changes it cant adapt to. automation with working class jobs needs to be a slow process.

me too stoopid cuz i have no degree

Thinking of others is great. Giving the government responsibility to care for them is not.

Gender studies <:TrumpHappy:624681485546553374>

how did i even type this?

@saturn broker I agree 100 percent. The problem is I don’t think tech companies care so much. I guess we’ll just have too see the impact of automation

automation is highly beneficial for humanity

I agree. We need automation

ultimately it will be. but not without some growing pains

But like Saturn was saying. It needs to be gradual.

We’ll see what the future holds

the future will be eventually bright

it's already starting to look good

https://youtu.be/SJUhlRoBL8M

Once robotics automation ai ml and computers replace humans we will look to interesting things to keep ourselves entertained

we will always find a purpose

I personally think humans don’t change, mentality, corruption, evil, domination, there will always be battles ahead

humans don't change, but we can always change things for the better

What’s better though

Hi

that is entirely on you, what you think is better

I think that’s the fundamental issue is everyone has a different view of better

yes, but not all "better" is with bad intentions

Most are not with bad intentions but most lead to it

eventually we will get better with people with good intentions

I don’t agree at all

that's why you should always fight to not let it become that way

Cause everyone thinks they have good intentions until they aren’t

true

doesn't mean you can't change shit for the better you think is truly better

Socialism sounds great and has good intentions but a bad outcome

not really, it had good outcomes, and america has sabotaged many attempts at it

Provide examples

with socialism catalonia's and burkina-faso's production tripled per example
capitalism isn't a bad system, neither is socialism in my opinion

lmao spain

Lmao EU

burkina faso is a third world train wreck and spains unemployment rate is 14%

they aren't currently socialist, at the time I meant

no country is truly socialist rn besides maybe cuba

and north korea isnt democratic

north korea isn't even socialist

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spain-parliament-election-pedro-sanchez-left-wing-coalition-latest-a9273756.html%3famp

If you are part of EU. You are forced to have socialist laws tbh

capitalism and socialism arent on equal footing. its not a case of two ideologies equal yet opposing each other. socialism is by nature totalitarian and without freedom. whether speaking conceptually, economically, or politically. capitalism is just an economic methodology based in individual freedom and liberty.

Actual socialism has been a miserable failure, some “socialist” reforms have been unfairly disrupted by the CIA eg Jacobo Arbenz being overthrown over seizing fallow land that United Fruit claimed thru underhanded contracts with dictators. Generally, government built around an ideology of envy, rage, constant struggle, and secular predestination doesn’t work out so well. I’d concede we could have better safety nets and welfare if we outright banned immigration

the eu is nowhere near socialist lool

theyre not socialist nor are they remotely an economic model to follow.

@Gappateeカルタゴ what would you say socialist is.

True. EU saves a lot of money via burden shifting to us for defense. They could not sustain their model if they paid for their own military

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@Pytokonda 🐏 actually socialist

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Socialist is whatever the perfect county looks like in his head

How would you explain socialism then

@Pytokonda 🐏 the definition of socialism? system where the workers own the means of production?

well its a lot more complicated than that but socialism is what socialism is, the actual thing created by marx

Money is fake, the country is a joke, give me my $1000 a month

That also encompasses distributism and agrarian economies though, Socialism entails a whole materialistic theory of history

I'm just talking about the marx definition of socialism

@DontBreadOnMe makin me wet rn

You on that one then.

Umm, yeah, have you not read Marx. He was a historian who modeled all of history thru a lens totally built around class struggle and economics.

Is this gappatee guy defending socialism?

Yi @Pepe The Frog

Better red than dead

What a lil bitch

He thinks socialism and capitalism are on equal footing as sound ideas. Correct me if I’m wrong

LMAO

yes

I'm retarded haha lole exdee

See it this way @Gappateeカルタゴ

Capitalism is white people now

And socialism is black people in the 1800’s

socialism poor xd

especially when it triples the production of a country xd

I don’t think you’re a retard but socialism is poorly defined to begin with.

Yeah

Hahaha yes, because the idea that investment in a market economy produces wealth is equivalent to the immanentization of the eschaton at the expense of the social order

the problem is that people think socialism is free money

They get payed off with their own tax money essentially

1k free every month vote joe Biden

Why is

thats was yang @Pepe The Frog

I don’t think they think it’s free money as much as they don’t actually take the time to think about resources in general

Oh yeah lmao I forgot ab him

The problem is that it’s a heresy. It is a belief that mankind can and will eventually create a perfect government for all people in all times and places. And that’s not even what most Americans mean by “socialism”. They mean social democracy/welfare state

But do not realize that that comes with 60%-ish tax rates

no system is perfect, that's why I believe both can work

Socialism has been proven in-effective though

The Soviet Union did work. Poorly.

soviet union sucked balls

Lmao that time the Soviet Union actually dried up an entire sea

I'm not really for authoritarian governements I will never agree with the USSR lol

I'm not mentally disabled to that point

That is an intrinsic component of Marx’s model. No socialism without a dictatorship

It necessitates dictatorship and authority.

There is no “chill version” of socialism

what's with all these people flocking **to** capitalist countries **from** socialist countries saying "no no no this is not at all how it's supposed to be"

and then when you say "k, then leave" it's OH THE HUMANITY

F*CK SOCIALISTS

lets just let the government steal our money for the horrifying act of trying to earn a living

some socialists believe in an auth gov, I don't
socialist democracies existed

give us a good example

National Socialism

no because every democratically elected socialist has been taken down by the cia

Salon 2013 “Chavez became the bugaboo of American politics because his full-throated advocacy of socialism and redistributionism at once represented a fundamental critique of neoliberal economics, and also delivered some indisputably positive results.”

Hitler predates the CIA

hitler wasn't socialist

Yes he was

Yes he was

> hurr durr not real socalisim

yeah it wasn't real socialism they just literally called it socialism
and literally did socialist things

No, he really wasn’t. It was more akin to China’s blended model rn

he called it that way to gain socialist voters

Ownership of corporate setups as semiprivate enterprises by favorites of the state

hitler wasn't socialist its a simple google search

> trust google

socialists are kinda retarded

"gosh guys you said something my censorious tech overlords disagree with you must be stupid and brainwashed"

I was just gonna pull that up

Read hitlers book. You’ll see how socialist he is

it was never socialist, it's only in the name, he did it to attract communist votes

https://mises.org/library/hitlers-economics Keynes was no commie, and he was a fan.

When things like independent and vox telling me he was not a socialist. I will doubt. They been proven to be fake news over and over again

if hitler was actually socialist why wasnt his system socialist and why did he kill commies

Partly because the socialists were internationalists and he was not, partly because he planned on genociding Slavs and colonizing Eastern Europe

Well for one in Europe back in the day, a lot of different socialist groups were infighting for power back then.

> the ~~socialists~~ jews were ~~internationalists~~ jewish

And that. Many secular Jews are given to communism for some reason. Eg the rosenburgs

its almost like jews invented Communism or something

They probably did

marx was a jew

We learned nothing from the 20th century. It was not “Fascism, Communism, bad, liberalism good”, it was “Dictating conformity to the ideas of man on the global level is bad”

And Marx was a theistic satanist

communism, if it isn't authoritarian, literally fucks over jews though

@Gappateeカルタゴ I'm from Europe, his party was a socialist org, the former leader of the DAP left the NSDAP in the late 30's because the party was going to the right from his point of view. Party still identified as a socialist org in the 40's. Beside that its a different kind of socialist system, not a marxist system but a pure racist base socialist system!!!!

> theistic satanist

yeah, jewish

Lol Marx was a foul human being on a personal level

wtf you believe in something you must believe the exact same things other people who believed in it happened to believe in!!

wood doors!

Are hard.

wait what are we talking about

dunno anymore

Some dum bass ideology, like “socialism” or something

Ummm, no, but you’re advocating for a system generally ushered in thru revolutions. In revolutions the radicals always seize control when the moderates can’t deliver. Read your Crane Brinton

based radicals

1776

@VicariousJambi where is my tea tax!

you get 25% of your income stolen by the government. I think its in there somewhere

Interestingly enough the American Revolution is actually notable as a “conservative revolution”, it borrowed enlightenment language but was ultimately a Middle and upper class vindication of existing rights rather than a middle class rejection of the reigning ideology and decadent ruling class

I think at this point we’re just T-posing on a sad pinko and shitposting

I too can use verbose language and creative diction to not make a point.

Imagine if feminists tried revolting over women’s rights

that would be cool i think

That would be a lot of dead

The point is that the American Revolution was not ideological like many other ones, therefore less dangerous to order

theyre too busy defending the rights of mentally ill men who want to be women

but dangerous radical revolutions are based

Kinda not tho

@DontBreadOnMe don't care. Where my tea tax <:knifepepe:624681482979377202>

We yeeted your gay tea tax.

I will invade if no give me my tea tax

Because what Bread is saying, is that the american revolution conformed to already present laws. Most radical revolutions would change laws.

oh no

Got a license for that knife?
Yes @Pepe The Frog

Lol

I have this M9 bayonet that I bought a bit back

I can’t imagine britbongs invading anyone when they needed help with Argentina before declining even further

True

Uh oh here comes an angry Brit

Iirc chile was the only country that help UK.

But what happened with vietman <:trumpwitchlul:624684793422020624>

Shut up! We don’t talk about nam

“The newspaper quoted unidentified Pentagon sources as saying U.S. supplies during the war included 200 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles, eight Stinger anti-aircraft systems, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, mortar shells, satellite intelligence, communications facilities and use of a U.S. air base on Ascension Island.”

What happened with Vietnam was that dipshit Kennedy brought us in and based Nixon got us out.

How do I get vetted

Least we got the island back. So mission accomplished. gotta keep them penguins safe

You do not unfortunately

Lol I applied 7 months ago and still don’t know if it ever went thru

Bruh

@DontBreadOnMe USA was on Argentina side. They even wanted us to give it up. But ofc USA happy to sell weapons to anyone <:ultrasmug:624684793199722498>

The CIA was helping Britain as well, actually

It’s cuz it doesn’t matter how many weapons we give them, we’ll always win...

Except for nam

Tbh would not call any war in middle East a win as well. They just unwinnable cos no one can help them

But UK been part of them as well

Yeah I get that

You mean 20 years of coin so Dubya can imitate daddy was a big lose?

US foreign policy just went to shit after 1898

Just leave sandpeople to the sand.
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UK tried to police the world and somewhat worked but turned alot of the world against us. USA doing same ATM. Just leave trash country to there doom

its easy to traffic children in war zones

Tbqh I love and respect England/UK as our parent civilization, but you guys can’t into war. Agreed that we’re similar but just one step behind

UK always been stubborn. We just don't know when to call it quits

I mean that’s pretty much Churchill’s whole peacetime career. Choices that would have been decent if the jig wasn’t up.

Are we talking about wooden doors again?

🚪

No. We’re talking about how AOC will save us with fully automated gay space communism

No 6million

never forget the 20 million

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/9906771/Nazis-may-have-killed-up-to-20m-claims-shocking-new-Holocaust-study.html

How many Gypsies died in the Holocaust?

not enough

More I read into the Holocaust. More I believe alot of it is made up. So I had to stop looking it up or people would call me whatever <:TrumpDisgust:624681485525319681>

oh I just direct people to "One third of the holocaust", good doc

I mean the camps were clearly real and match the rhetoric, but the scope was blatantly exaggerated for propo purposes

Incorrect

Plus Russia and Japan did by far worst things. Why is Nazis only one to have a bad outlook

because the "russians" doing the bad things were actually jews

but hey lets all vote for bolshevik bernie

Well because the ruskies were on the winning team when the music stopped

https://youtu.be/jEg7KpgdEPQ

Well, yeah, both were pretty nasty.

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