That also encompasses distributism and agrarian economies though, Socialism entails a whole materialistic theory of history

I'm just talking about the marx definition of socialism

@DontBreadOnMe makin me wet rn

You on that one then.

Umm, yeah, have you not read Marx. He was a historian who modeled all of history thru a lens totally built around class struggle and economics.

Is this gappatee guy defending socialism?

Yi @Pepe The Frog

Better red than dead

What a lil bitch

He thinks socialism and capitalism are on equal footing as sound ideas. Correct me if I’m wrong

LMAO

yes

I'm retarded haha lole exdee

See it this way @Gappateeカルタゴ

Capitalism is white people now

And socialism is black people in the 1800’s

socialism poor xd

especially when it triples the production of a country xd

I don’t think you’re a retard but socialism is poorly defined to begin with.

Yeah

Hahaha yes, because the idea that investment in a market economy produces wealth is equivalent to the immanentization of the eschaton at the expense of the social order

the problem is that people think socialism is free money

They get payed off with their own tax money essentially

1k free every month vote joe Biden

Why is

thats was yang @Pepe The Frog

I don’t think they think it’s free money as much as they don’t actually take the time to think about resources in general

Oh yeah lmao I forgot ab him

The problem is that it’s a heresy. It is a belief that mankind can and will eventually create a perfect government for all people in all times and places. And that’s not even what most Americans mean by “socialism”. They mean social democracy/welfare state

But do not realize that that comes with 60%-ish tax rates

no system is perfect, that's why I believe both can work

Socialism has been proven in-effective though

The Soviet Union did work. Poorly.

soviet union sucked balls

Lmao that time the Soviet Union actually dried up an entire sea

I'm not really for authoritarian governements I will never agree with the USSR lol

I'm not mentally disabled to that point

That is an intrinsic component of Marx’s model. No socialism without a dictatorship

It necessitates dictatorship and authority.

There is no “chill version” of socialism

what's with all these people flocking **to** capitalist countries **from** socialist countries saying "no no no this is not at all how it's supposed to be"

and then when you say "k, then leave" it's OH THE HUMANITY

F*CK SOCIALISTS