Message from @Gappateeカルタゴ
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that is entirely on you, what you think is better
I think that’s the fundamental issue is everyone has a different view of better
yes, but not all "better" is with bad intentions
Most are not with bad intentions but most lead to it
eventually we will get better with people with good intentions
I don’t agree at all
that's why you should always fight to not let it become that way
Cause everyone thinks they have good intentions until they aren’t
true
doesn't mean you can't change shit for the better you think is truly better
Socialism sounds great and has good intentions but a bad outcome
not really, it had good outcomes, and america has sabotaged many attempts at it
Provide examples
with socialism catalonia's and burkina-faso's production tripled per example
capitalism isn't a bad system, neither is socialism in my opinion
lmao spain
Lmao EU
burkina faso is a third world train wreck and spains unemployment rate is 14%
they aren't currently socialist, at the time I meant
no country is truly socialist rn besides maybe cuba
and north korea isnt democratic
If you are part of EU. You are forced to have socialist laws tbh
capitalism and socialism arent on equal footing. its not a case of two ideologies equal yet opposing each other. socialism is by nature totalitarian and without freedom. whether speaking conceptually, economically, or politically. capitalism is just an economic methodology based in individual freedom and liberty.
Actual socialism has been a miserable failure, some “socialist” reforms have been unfairly disrupted by the CIA eg Jacobo Arbenz being overthrown over seizing fallow land that United Fruit claimed thru underhanded contracts with dictators. Generally, government built around an ideology of envy, rage, constant struggle, and secular predestination doesn’t work out so well. I’d concede we could have better safety nets and welfare if we outright banned immigration
the eu is nowhere near socialist lool
theyre not socialist nor are they remotely an economic model to follow.
@Gappateeカルタゴ what would you say socialist is.
True. EU saves a lot of money via burden shifting to us for defense. They could not sustain their model if they paid for their own military
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@Pytokonda 🐏 actually socialist
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Socialist is whatever the perfect county looks like in his head
How would you explain socialism then
@Pytokonda 🐏 the definition of socialism? system where the workers own the means of production?
well its a lot more complicated than that but socialism is what socialism is, the actual thing created by marx
Money is fake, the country is a joke, give me my $1000 a month
That also encompasses distributism and agrarian economies though, Socialism entails a whole materialistic theory of history
I'm just talking about the marx definition of socialism
@DontBreadOnMe makin me wet rn
You on that one then.