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theyre not socialist nor are they remotely an economic model to follow.
@Gappateeć«ć«ćæć“ what would you say socialist is.
True. EU saves a lot of money via burden shifting to us for defense. They could not sustain their model if they paid for their own military
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@Pytokonda š actually socialist
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Socialist is whatever the perfect county looks like in his head
How would you explain socialism then
@Pytokonda š the definition of socialism? system where the workers own the means of production?
well its a lot more complicated than that but socialism is what socialism is, the actual thing created by marx
Money is fake, the country is a joke, give me my $1000 a month
That also encompasses distributism and agrarian economies though, Socialism entails a whole materialistic theory of history
I'm just talking about the marx definition of socialism
@DontBreadOnMe makin me wet rn
You on that one then.
Umm, yeah, have you not read Marx. He was a historian who modeled all of history thru a lens totally built around class struggle and economics.
Is this gappatee guy defending socialism?
Better red than dead
What a lil bitch
LMAO
yes
I'm retarded haha lole exdee
See it this way @Gappateeć«ć«ćæć“
Capitalism is white people now
And socialism is black people in the 1800ās
socialism poor xd
especially when it triples the production of a country xd
I donāt think youāre a retard but socialism is poorly defined to begin with.
Yeah
Hahaha yes, because the idea that investment in a market economy produces wealth is equivalent to the immanentization of the eschaton at the expense of the social order
the problem is that people think socialism is free money
They get payed off with their own tax money essentially
1k free every month vote joe Biden
Why is
thats was yang @Pepe The Frog
I donāt think they think itās free money as much as they donāt actually take the time to think about resources in general
Oh yeah lmao I forgot ab him
The problem is that itās a heresy. It is a belief that mankind can and will eventually create a perfect government for all people in all times and places. And thatās not even what most Americans mean by āsocialismā. They mean social democracy/welfare state
But do not realize that that comes with 60%-ish tax rates
no system is perfect, that's why I believe both can work