He didn't call peter *the* rock.

Unless some meaning was lost in translation, enlighten me.

Peter means rock

It's you are rock and on this rock

Your argument sounds like a Protestant

ܐܴܦ݂ ܐܷܢܳܐ ܐܴܡܰܪ ܐ̱ܢܳܐ ܠܴܟ݂ ܂ ܕܱ݁ܐܢ̄ܬ݁ ܗ̄ܽܘ ܟܻ݁ܐܦ݂ܳܐ ܂ ܘܥܰܠ ܗܳܕ݂ܶܐ ܟܻ݁ܐܦ݂ܳܐ ܐܷܒ݂ܢܶܝܗ ܠܥܺܕ̱݁ܬ݁ܝ܂ ܘܬ݂ܱܪ̈ܥܶܐ ܕܱ݁ܫܝܽܘܠ ܠܴܐ ܢܶܚܣܢܽܘܢܳܗ܂

Christ is the head of all the churches

Bishops are equal among them

ܟܺܐܦܳܐ
ܟܺܐܦܳܐ
ܟܺܐܦܳܐ
ܟܺܐܦܳܐ

And my argument still stands, until 1053 all bishops were equal

After 1053 the Bishop of Rome waged war to the other churches by demanding conversing or closing them up

Where was his right to this?

Is that Aramaic @Deleted User

@Iakovos yes

OHHHHHHHHH

John 1:42

Christ literally named him Rock.

"You are Simon and you will be called Cephas."

@Deleted User if your statement is taken as entirely true at face value, and there is no missing knowledge, then I would say no it is not right to close down a liturgical rite if it is doctinally sound

Also Rag.

You know I'm a lover of Scripture, and so that is where you will win my heart over what any man has written.

If Christ changed the name of Peter, then it stands.

Peter is the rock of the Church.

However the bishops were not considered to be of equal standing prior to 1053, primacy has always been recognized.

Then we wouldn't have the ecumenical councils

The bishop of rome would just accept what he wants to accept

I think that's misinterpreting Papal Infallibility.

"The see of blessed Peter the Apostle has the right to unbind what has been bound by sentences of any pontiffs whatever, in that it has the right to judge the whole church. Neither is it lawful for anyone to judge its judgment, seeing that canons have willed that it might be appealed to from any part of the world, but that no one may be allowed to appeal from it." - Pope Gelasius I, reigned 492-496 AD

Vested with equal power from above and with equal authority to absolve sins, all the Apostles will sit on the twelve thrones next to the Son of Man (cf. Mt. 19:28)

idk what all that means @Deleted User

The Pope doesn't have the power to just say "homosexuality is okay" or any other thing contrary to faith and morals. Not only does he not have the power, he does not have the ability.

@Iakovos The Apostolic See of Peter means Rome. It's another name. Ever heard, "Holy See"?

But because in the Acts of the Apostles the labors of the Apostles Peter and Paul are the most told, the Church and the holy fathers, while revering the name of each of the Apostles, call these two Apostles chief.

Calling these two Apostles chief in rank and labors, the Church impresses upon us that its head is Jesus Christ alone, and all the Apostles are His servants (cf. Col. 1:18).

Judas had a throne reserved for him but it was forfeited to Paul.

It is literally impossible for the Pope to make a declaration against Christianity ex cathedra

Hence Jesus saying the gates of hell will not prevail

Now a Pope can sin, but he cannot make an official ex cathedra statement allowing it

Christ is the head of the Church.

The Pope merely looks after it.

That's where some Catholics start to tread a fine line between *honoring* the pope and *worshipping* him

When the Apostle Paul spoke of the Apostles who are honored as the pillars of the faith, he assigned first place to James, and then Peter and John (Gal. 2:9), and places himself amongst them (2 Cor. 11:5)

Rag has gone over this.

He is called Simon twice, his birth name, and Peter 49 times

He was just writing names.

This would be like saying Pope Rock I

Francis is not his birth name

But does writing names in a certain order back then mean anything?

@Iakovos Their new names, were the ones that have been baptized from Christ

Galatians 2:6-9 New International Version (NIV)

6 As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism—they added nothing to my message. 7 On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcised,[a] just as Peter had been to the circumcised.[b] 8 For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles. 9 James, Cephas[c] and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised.

So those who were held in high esteem - James, Peter, John

doesn't matter to Paul

because God does not show favoritism.

6 As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism

Which other apostles got new names?

🤷 I'm just analyzing the passage

Exactly

Are Paul's words not the Word of God?

I'll send you a list of verses

It's really long

Are they not Scriptural?

I need to sleep so I will look at it later.

Pual's words are the word of God.

http://orthochristian.com/47547.html @Iakovos @Deleted User

@Deleted User Can you send the verses as a DM to me too?

For what purpose?

I want to read them

I won't be able to convince you. I'd be glad just to get you to go to *any* church

I'm not going to be convinced about the papacy but I want to see both sides

@Deleted User

Would you be less catholic if the church allowed priests to be married and gay priests?

@Thornberry married priests aren't a problem

Gay priests?

@Thornberry Married priests would solve the degeneracy problems inside the churches

Wasn't absolutely banned until like the 11th century

Banning degeneracy would solve the degeneracy problem

@Deleted User I'd like to think so as well

Orthodox bishops aren't married either

They should allow marriage though

Imo

Marriage should only be illegal for the ones that choose to live inside Monasteries that women aren't able to go

I *agree* with it in principle

But at this time we don't have the money

@Deleted User I'm going out, if you don't mind send the verses. I'll read them when I'm done with my studying

A priest is paid pathetically low salary, works six days per week

Lives at the Church

It's difficult to raise a family on that

It's not that the churches don't have money though, they do have a lot of them too

Is he really? I thought they got paid decently

My priest is paid something like $18,000 a year

I'll have to look it up

Runs two churches, alone

Plus going to the prison and the military base

He is the only priest we have for two parishes. Not a unique situation either

Up here anyways

I think in one diocese a priest got $250k worth of Reno done to his house and people freaked

Our priests start from 644 euros up to 2600 euros as an archbishop

Midwest has the highest salary in the US, around $29

@Deleted User a year?

@Thornberry Per month

Our bishops get the same pay

Oh

That's really good tbh

I imagine cost of living is probably lower there

For Greece, 2600 is a dream like payment

The salary is basically tied to diocese based on cost of living

I know when my parents were church ministers they didnt get paid much and everything they had was owned by the church

My bishop gets paid the same as my priest

He owned a motorcycle at one time but everything else was church owned

I think the highest paid priest or Bishop is around $45,000

All of it is taxed

And being single, it's taxed heavily

But anyway, that's not a family salary. That's very low.

$18k is about what a McDonald's employee makes

If the entire country was Catholic and there was a lot more tithes coming in, then I'd support it

Right now, 20% of us give an average of 3% of our income

What timeline is this?
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/447553-milo-yiannopoulos-named-marshal-for-straight-pride-parade

When a gay is a leading model for the straight pride you know that the leftists have fucked it up

The ultimate triggering by Milo!!!

Trigglypuffs will spontaneously combust and explode!

I want to see their answer,

They even call him anti-semite

for some reason

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-homosexuality-part-of-jewish-tradition-1.5383449 @the good jew Now they are against you mate

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FWAdwcS-WU

One of a Trump group just got perma zucc

62,000 supporters silenced

Typical for fb to do it

Just wait for the pre-election silencing

Even GET is going to get the ban hammer in that time

GET, GET’s Dank Meme Stash, GET 4D Chess Wizard’s Lair and most Trump groups

Even Muslims for Trump and Sikhs for Trump will get banned soon for being “not liberal”

They will, they will be labeled as far right white supremacists also

How is Muslim and Sikh a white supremacist? <:GWqlabsThonkery:398950779769061376> <:GWqlabsThinkPlant:398950908169551872>

The 2020 elections are going to be the most propagandistic ones, they will unleash everything against Trump

Beats me <:TheodoreRooseveltLaugh:585130800870195200>

We got until 2025 of butthurt

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/9235663/asteroid-crash-earth-2019-when/

I hope it doesn't miss

@Deleted User I hope it lands right on a trannies bunghole

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Drinking a cold beer, listening to folk greek music while writing java and fighting with a waste of human resources(bulgarian) Nothing better

@Deleted User

Do you hate all Balkan nations?

Well.. I could see a small lived alliance with the serbians

to exterminate all the bastard nations that emerged in medieval times

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Perfect

But to understand it better in balkans everyone is hating the other

We just have FYROM/Albania and Bulgs trying to claim our history just because they don't have anything of value like the negroids

So it's an extra hate relationship there

and basically we have killed each other in the 2 balkan wars except that we were allies with the serbs hence why with the serbs we don't have so bad relationship

So Bulgaria lays claim to Alexander the great kinda shit?

They get propaganda in their schools that we came as nomads and killed them, took all their history and their heroes. Achilles/spartans etc

LMFAO

Most balkans are bastard nations that either were created in 7 to 11th century from the relocations that happened, and some like Romania that were created in 19th century and FYROM was the wet dream of Tito to lay claim on Macedonia

that was created after the WW2

So what are they break off states of?

US even declassified a treaty that has been intercepted from the commies we had were with Tito, they commies wanted here to give Macedonia to him for the great of the motherland (USSR)

FYROM have some Greek lands and the other are serbian de jure claims

Kosovo is de jure Serbian lands

Half the lands of Albanian are ours and they Allies give it to them in a treaty (Northern Epirus)

Bulgaria formed in the middle ages from nomads and we conquered them because they were trying to lay claims in ERE.

Romania is the biggest bastard nation though, some of the lands are hungarian, others are commonwealth and some bulgarian

Albania never had a kingdom it was first created after ottos came to balkans so QQ for them

Half the countries shouldn't exist in modern times. Like only Serbia/Greece and Bulgaria should exist in balkans

oh yes also forgot, croatia,bosnia and montenegro should also be independent

Leg day

Gods I hate it

Legs are important too

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Yes

Very important fir reproduction

One day I'll be me but shorter

The Hill

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@Thornberry

I'll work for something like that

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i actually love leg day

I didn't, my gym was 40 mins away from my house

I cursed my name each day I had leg day and had to return to my house in the summer

lmao

don't lift until total failure for the legs if you have to walk it home

Couldn't tbh my trainer pushed me to the limits, at least I had a great progress

i used to jog it to the gym and then take the bus home

so i could go all out during the workouts

But to return to house it was a total misery, 40 celsius on my head and fatigued legs haha

"Hey goyims, white genocide is a myth"

RIP thousands of years of a bloodline to end to abominations

considering all three turned out to be gay, i bet there is some sexual abuse in that house

most likely

or single parent

That or daddy gets his lil girls to perform for him

I live for the moment that this generation of women from 2000s until now were fucking like animal most of them are getting out of time for kids, it's going to be sweet to see their reactions

Before we go to middle east we have to deal with the marxists here first <:godemperor:445097873890082817>

Its enjoyable to watch thots get old and are bitching cause their coochie is drying up

They can fill themselves with dick all they want but itll never cover the hole daddy left in her family life

The time for them not being able to breed is coming, (for most of them other have negroids). We will see a big spike in suicides in the future

They will see what they were promised just isn't there

https://youtu.be/LoNhWnrUkeI

https://libertybill.tumblr.com/post/185438392062

lol

Nope

https://youtu.be/sfLa64_zLrU

Thumbs down

is anyone here ?

iS ThIs SeRvEr DeAd ?

https://tenor.com/view/press-f-pay-respect-gif-12855017

@Umata yes

I'm assuming yes to the first and not the second one

a server dedicated to the Emperor of Mankind cannot die

the server is pretty active. people are just taking a break

Yeah I know. I'm just trying to stir up conversation. not working as well I thought it would XD

Well I'm off to bed. but I will be tomorrow

gn

Any Alt-Right person that believes in evolution truly isn't a traditionalist because they are not Christian.

There is micro-evolution

not macro-evolution.

At least, I don't believe so, and it isn't necessary for me to know as it doesn't effect my salvation.

Evolution is because God willed it

Evolution is of gods design

If a rabbit gains fins and swims it is because God willed it

I agree @Thornberry

https://forward.com/opinion/425317/for-me-being-gay-and-zionist-are-one-and-the-same/?utm_content=bufferbe06a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Got that double world threat going on

Got three tonight. Guess the color

That's why I was quiet for four hours. Traffic stop foot chase marijuana, three go to jail

One male two females, one of them hot

One of the girls

Perfect body

But she was black so therefore used up and worthless

Actually I do carry two guns<:smugpepe:445634631950139403>

Which is two more than the faggot police

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https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/06/alabama-mayor-calls-nationwide-execution-homosexuals-transvestites/

Hoooooly shit

Please let this be real