Message from @Iakovos

Discord ID: 586895448816484352


2019-06-08 12:24:45 UTC  

The Pope doesn't have the power to just say "homosexuality is okay" or any other thing contrary to faith and morals. Not only does he not have the power, he does not have the ability.

2019-06-08 12:25:12 UTC  

@Iakovos The Apostolic See of Peter means Rome. It's another name. Ever heard, "Holy See"?

2019-06-08 12:25:20 UTC  

But because in the Acts of the Apostles the labors of the Apostles Peter and Paul are the most told, the Church and the holy fathers, while revering the name of each of the Apostles, call these two Apostles chief.

Calling these two Apostles chief in rank and labors, the Church impresses upon us that its head is Jesus Christ alone, and all the Apostles are His servants (cf. Col. 1:18).

2019-06-08 12:25:46 UTC  

Judas had a throne reserved for him but it was forfeited to Paul.

2019-06-08 12:26:03 UTC  

It is literally impossible for the Pope to make a declaration against Christianity ex cathedra

2019-06-08 12:26:19 UTC  

Hence Jesus saying the gates of hell will not prevail

2019-06-08 12:26:44 UTC  

Now a Pope can sin, but he cannot make an official ex cathedra statement allowing it

2019-06-08 12:27:23 UTC  

Christ is the head of the Church.

2019-06-08 12:27:28 UTC  

The Pope merely looks after it.

2019-06-08 12:27:47 UTC  

That's where some Catholics start to tread a fine line between *honoring* the pope and *worshipping* him

2019-06-08 12:27:48 UTC  

When the Apostle Paul spoke of the Apostles who are honored as the pillars of the faith, he assigned first place to James, and then Peter and John (Gal. 2:9), and places himself amongst them (2 Cor. 11:5)

2019-06-08 12:27:51 UTC  

Rag has gone over this.

2019-06-08 12:29:37 UTC  

He is called Simon twice, his birth name, and Peter 49 times

2019-06-08 12:29:47 UTC  

He was just writing names.

2019-06-08 12:30:00 UTC  

This would be like saying Pope Rock I

2019-06-08 12:30:11 UTC  

Francis is not his birth name

2019-06-08 12:30:11 UTC  

But does writing names in a certain order back then mean anything?

2019-06-08 12:31:55 UTC  

@Iakovos Their new names, were the ones that have been baptized from Christ

2019-06-08 12:32:17 UTC  

Galatians 2:6-9 New International Version (NIV)

6 As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism—they added nothing to my message. 7 On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcised,[a] just as Peter had been to the circumcised.[b] 8 For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles. 9 James, Cephas[c] and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised.

2019-06-08 12:32:48 UTC  

So those who were held in high esteem - James, Peter, John

2019-06-08 12:32:58 UTC  

doesn't matter to Paul

2019-06-08 12:33:05 UTC  

because God does not show favoritism.

2019-06-08 12:33:10 UTC  

6 As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism

2019-06-08 12:33:28 UTC  

Which other apostles got new names?

2019-06-08 12:33:50 UTC  

🤷 I'm just analyzing the passage

2019-06-08 12:35:18 UTC  

Exactly

2019-06-08 12:35:37 UTC  

Are Paul's words not the Word of God?

2019-06-08 12:35:44 UTC  

I'll send you a list of verses

2019-06-08 12:35:47 UTC  

It's really long

2019-06-08 12:35:48 UTC  

Are they not Scriptural?

2019-06-08 12:36:11 UTC  

I need to sleep so I will look at it later.

2019-06-08 12:36:29 UTC  

Pual's words are the word of God.

2019-06-08 12:49:14 UTC  

@Deleted User Can you send the verses as a DM to me too?

2019-06-08 12:49:30 UTC  

For what purpose?

2019-06-08 12:49:40 UTC  

I want to read them

2019-06-08 12:49:57 UTC  

I won't be able to convince you. I'd be glad just to get you to go to *any* church

2019-06-08 12:50:20 UTC  

I'm not going to be convinced about the papacy but I want to see both sides

2019-06-08 12:50:31 UTC  

@Deleted User

Would you be less catholic if the church allowed priests to be married and gay priests?

2019-06-08 12:50:53 UTC  

@Thornberry married priests aren't a problem

2019-06-08 12:51:09 UTC  

Gay priests?