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John 1:42
Christ literally named him Rock.
"You are Simon and you will be called Cephas."
@Deleted User if your statement is taken as entirely true at face value, and there is no missing knowledge, then I would say no it is not right to close down a liturgical rite if it is doctinally sound
Also Rag.
You know I'm a lover of Scripture, and so that is where you will win my heart over what any man has written.
If Christ changed the name of Peter, then it stands.
Peter is the rock of the Church.
However the bishops were not considered to be of equal standing prior to 1053, primacy has always been recognized.
Then we wouldn't have the ecumenical councils
The bishop of rome would just accept what he wants to accept
I think that's misinterpreting Papal Infallibility.
"The see of blessed Peter the Apostle has the right to unbind what has been bound by sentences of any pontiffs whatever, in that it has the right to judge the whole church. Neither is it lawful for anyone to judge its judgment, seeing that canons have willed that it might be appealed to from any part of the world, but that no one may be allowed to appeal from it." - Pope Gelasius I, reigned 492-496 AD
Vested with equal power from above and with equal authority to absolve sins, all the Apostles will sit on the twelve thrones next to the Son of Man (cf. Mt. 19:28)
idk what all that means @Deleted User
The Pope doesn't have the power to just say "homosexuality is okay" or any other thing contrary to faith and morals. Not only does he not have the power, he does not have the ability.
@Iakovos The Apostolic See of Peter means Rome. It's another name. Ever heard, "Holy See"?
But because in the Acts of the Apostles the labors of the Apostles Peter and Paul are the most told, the Church and the holy fathers, while revering the name of each of the Apostles, call these two Apostles chief.
Calling these two Apostles chief in rank and labors, the Church impresses upon us that its head is Jesus Christ alone, and all the Apostles are His servants (cf. Col. 1:18).
Judas had a throne reserved for him but it was forfeited to Paul.
Hence Jesus saying the gates of hell will not prevail
Now a Pope can sin, but he cannot make an official ex cathedra statement allowing it
Christ is the head of the Church.
The Pope merely looks after it.
That's where some Catholics start to tread a fine line between *honoring* the pope and *worshipping* him
When the Apostle Paul spoke of the Apostles who are honored as the pillars of the faith, he assigned first place to James, and then Peter and John (Gal. 2:9), and places himself amongst them (2 Cor. 11:5)
Rag has gone over this.
He is called Simon twice, his birth name, and Peter 49 times
He was just writing names.
This would be like saying Pope Rock I
Francis is not his birth name
But does writing names in a certain order back then mean anything?
@Iakovos Their new names, were the ones that have been baptized from Christ
Galatians 2:6-9 New International Version (NIV)
6 As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism—they added nothing to my message. 7 On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcised,[a] just as Peter had been to the circumcised.[b] 8 For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles. 9 James, Cephas[c] and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised.
So those who were held in high esteem - James, Peter, John
doesn't matter to Paul
because God does not show favoritism.
6 As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism
Which other apostles got new names?
🤷 I'm just analyzing the passage