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>why would you pirate

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@undeadvadar moneygrabbing swedish whores

yes

a lot of the dlc is just cosmetic though

all the dlc youd need would just cost you about 60 euro

or something

overwatch is trash

im poor

not a single euro

2017-06-15 22:28:58 UTC

how do you afford the internet

i no hev moni

2017-06-15 22:29:13 UTC

moms basement type of thing?

no

stronk

2017-06-15 22:29:47 UTC

are you in starbucks rn?

2017-06-15 22:29:49 UTC

ohh

2017-06-15 22:29:59 UTC

based serb

every country in the area has a better economy than us

except for albania and macedonia

well

not by a lot

but still

2017-06-15 22:30:57 UTC

even slovakia?

slovakia isnt a neighboring country

nor in the area

2017-06-15 22:31:52 UTC

i mean i would consider slovakia p close

2017-06-15 22:31:56 UTC

eastern bloc anyway

2017-06-15 22:32:06 UTC

yeah

2017-06-15 22:32:10 UTC

yugoslavia was a mistake

>(

nein

If people werent fucking retards it wouldve worked out

2017-06-15 22:34:22 UTC

just migrate to west, at least you're white

tru

yes

2017-06-16 00:46:27 UTC
2017-06-16 00:46:29 UTC

wait a min i get it

2017-06-16 00:46:53 UTC

the fracture isn't good, i don't understand what's wrong with syndicalism though

2017-06-16 00:47:16 UTC

although i think the fracture has legitimate reason, there are disagreements that need to be resolved

2017-06-16 00:47:19 UTC

@post-ironic username everybody are different. You become left-wing from different angles. Some because they are gay, some because they are good hearted religious people. It is all good. The fracture and syndicalism is what is not good, right?

2017-06-16 00:47:49 UTC

yeah i read that, sorry i glossed over it the first time

2017-06-16 00:48:12 UTC

Syndicalism is the ideology of fracture.

2017-06-16 00:48:21 UTC

Platformism too.

2017-06-16 00:48:27 UTC

isn't syndicalism democratic worker union management

2017-06-16 00:48:36 UTC

like i know a few deleonists

2017-06-16 00:49:15 UTC

Not only. The way the democracy is set through is not correct.

2017-06-16 00:49:27 UTC

how so?

2017-06-16 00:50:46 UTC

Bolshevik are against platformism or syndicalism because we have to have a disciplined organization for revolutionary action. After the world revolution decentralization is all-right.

2017-06-16 00:51:02 UTC

But that is not our lifetime.

2017-06-16 00:51:17 UTC

All we have is a need for discipline.

2017-06-16 00:51:33 UTC

hm

2017-06-16 00:51:41 UTC

so you are pro-democracy pro-centralization?

2017-06-16 00:52:27 UTC

Yes both. More on authoritarian side.

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2017-06-16 00:54:07 UTC

so isn't there a possibility of the party that works in the proletariat's interests forming a new ruling class?

2017-06-16 00:54:31 UTC

We are not against worker's aristocracy.

2017-06-16 00:55:05 UTC

wouldn't this eventually degenerate into fascism though

2017-06-16 00:55:32 UTC

@post-ironic username everything may degenerate into many things.

2017-06-16 00:55:50 UTC

...?

2017-06-16 00:56:14 UTC

Every single ideology may degenerate into fascism.

2017-06-16 00:58:19 UTC

i guess, but some are better than others at avoiding that problem

2017-06-16 00:58:41 UTC

Like what?

2017-06-16 00:58:47 UTC

of course even in some ideal anarchist society fascism could be caused by violent revolution

2017-06-16 00:59:18 UTC

but ML society mid-transition makes it easier with one central council controlling everything and trying to maintain their power, does it not?

2017-06-16 01:00:53 UTC

It depends. I think we can run on a personal authority of our man. One man can be responsible and should.

2017-06-16 01:01:27 UTC

But we have to have a bigger organization than before.

2017-06-16 01:02:48 UTC

why is one man running things advantageous?

2017-06-16 01:02:55 UTC

If one man can't do it - smaller council is possible.

2017-06-16 01:02:58 UTC

it seems like you're depending on a very weak link here

2017-06-16 01:03:57 UTC

The smartest man should be the leader, yes?

2017-06-16 01:04:33 UTC

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2017-06-16 01:05:32 UTC

how do you determine the smartest man? might?

2017-06-16 01:05:52 UTC

why not have discourse between several people and reach the truth democratically?

2017-06-16 01:06:01 UTC

By his scientific input in Marxism.

2017-06-16 01:06:55 UTC

Like Lenin just started to make analitics and nobody had any way around him.

2017-06-16 01:07:29 UTC

i'm not that well versed in theory but i'm sure there are a few criticisms of lenin's work out there

2017-06-16 01:07:46 UTC

@post-ironic username they all failed and gave up.

2017-06-16 01:08:06 UTC

ofc i'd have no way to tell if they're valid or not without reading them

2017-06-16 01:08:08 UTC

In his lifetime.

2017-06-16 01:08:26 UTC

@post-ironic username I've read them.

2017-06-16 01:09:08 UTC

There always been talks in the party. The saved archives you can read.

2017-06-16 01:09:14 UTC

link?

2017-06-16 01:09:39 UTC

I have no idea how to call it in English. I'll look it up for you right now.

2017-06-16 01:09:42 UTC

and maybe some relevant excerpts of some of the criticisms?

2017-06-16 01:12:05 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314649062928547840/325080059063042051/header.jpg

2017-06-16 01:12:34 UTC

Something like that. Best is to find translations of the party meetings, they are all recorded.

2017-06-16 01:12:55 UTC

okay

2017-06-16 01:13:28 UTC

so in a hypothetical, say some guy named Steven wrote some really good theory and had the best ideas

2017-06-16 01:13:37 UTC

Yep

2017-06-16 01:14:00 UTC

wouldn't the population be convinced of it, and would elect him?

2017-06-16 01:14:14 UTC

@post-ironic username election is a lie.

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