just migrate to west, at least you're white

tru

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QYgM81N5Qo

yes

@Firefly

wait a min i get it

the fracture isn't good, i don't understand what's wrong with syndicalism though

although i think the fracture has legitimate reason, there are disagreements that need to be resolved

@post-ironic username everybody are different. You become left-wing from different angles. Some because they are gay, some because they are good hearted religious people. It is all good. The fracture and syndicalism is what is not good, right?

yeah i read that, sorry i glossed over it the first time

Syndicalism is the ideology of fracture.

Platformism too.

isn't syndicalism democratic worker union management

like i know a few deleonists

Not only. The way the democracy is set through is not correct.

how so?

Bolshevik are against platformism or syndicalism because we have to have a disciplined organization for revolutionary action. After the world revolution decentralization is all-right.

But that is not our lifetime.

All we have is a need for discipline.

hm

so you are pro-democracy pro-centralization?

Yes both. More on authoritarian side.

so isn't there a possibility of the party that works in the proletariat's interests forming a new ruling class?

We are not against worker's aristocracy.

wouldn't this eventually degenerate into fascism though

@post-ironic username everything may degenerate into many things.

...?

Every single ideology may degenerate into fascism.

i guess, but some are better than others at avoiding that problem

Like what?

of course even in some ideal anarchist society fascism could be caused by violent revolution

but ML society mid-transition makes it easier with one central council controlling everything and trying to maintain their power, does it not?

It depends. I think we can run on a personal authority of our man. One man can be responsible and should.

But we have to have a bigger organization than before.

why is one man running things advantageous?

If one man can't do it - smaller council is possible.

it seems like you're depending on a very weak link here

The smartest man should be the leader, yes?