Message from @post-ironic username

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2017-06-16 00:59:18 UTC  

but ML society mid-transition makes it easier with one central council controlling everything and trying to maintain their power, does it not?

2017-06-16 01:00:53 UTC  

It depends. I think we can run on a personal authority of our man. One man can be responsible and should.

2017-06-16 01:01:27 UTC  

But we have to have a bigger organization than before.

2017-06-16 01:02:48 UTC  

why is one man running things advantageous?

2017-06-16 01:02:55 UTC  

If one man can't do it - smaller council is possible.

2017-06-16 01:02:58 UTC  

it seems like you're depending on a very weak link here

2017-06-16 01:03:57 UTC  

The smartest man should be the leader, yes?

2017-06-16 01:04:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314649062928547840/325078161161453578/image.png

2017-06-16 01:05:32 UTC  

how do you determine the smartest man? might?

2017-06-16 01:05:52 UTC  

why not have discourse between several people and reach the truth democratically?

2017-06-16 01:06:01 UTC  

By his scientific input in Marxism.

2017-06-16 01:06:55 UTC  

Like Lenin just started to make analitics and nobody had any way around him.

2017-06-16 01:07:29 UTC  

i'm not that well versed in theory but i'm sure there are a few criticisms of lenin's work out there

2017-06-16 01:07:46 UTC  

@post-ironic username they all failed and gave up.

2017-06-16 01:08:06 UTC  

ofc i'd have no way to tell if they're valid or not without reading them

2017-06-16 01:08:08 UTC  

In his lifetime.

2017-06-16 01:08:26 UTC  

@post-ironic username I've read them.

2017-06-16 01:09:08 UTC  

There always been talks in the party. The saved archives you can read.

2017-06-16 01:09:14 UTC  

link?

2017-06-16 01:09:39 UTC  

I have no idea how to call it in English. I'll look it up for you right now.

2017-06-16 01:09:42 UTC  

and maybe some relevant excerpts of some of the criticisms?

2017-06-16 01:12:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314649062928547840/325080059063042051/header.jpg

2017-06-16 01:12:34 UTC  

Something like that. Best is to find translations of the party meetings, they are all recorded.

2017-06-16 01:12:55 UTC  

okay

2017-06-16 01:13:28 UTC  

so in a hypothetical, say some guy named Steven wrote some really good theory and had the best ideas

2017-06-16 01:13:37 UTC  

Yep

2017-06-16 01:14:00 UTC  

wouldn't the population be convinced of it, and would elect him?

2017-06-16 01:14:14 UTC  

@post-ironic username election is a lie.

2017-06-16 01:14:28 UTC  

You overestimate it.

2017-06-16 01:15:20 UTC  

It is nice to have elections, but I'm more about direct computerized democracy.

2017-06-16 01:15:45 UTC  

Elections are delegative.

2017-06-16 01:15:47 UTC  

okay, i actually agree with you there

2017-06-16 01:16:09 UTC  

People should think by themselves

2017-06-16 01:16:31 UTC  

wouldn't his ideas become policy with democratic decision-making, then?

2017-06-16 01:16:41 UTC  

you wouldn't need to put him in absolute leadership

2017-06-16 01:16:50 UTC  

Why not?

2017-06-16 01:17:03 UTC  

He understands what to do and how.

2017-06-16 01:17:09 UTC  

Better than you.

2017-06-16 01:17:54 UTC  

Masses' level of decision-making is poor.

2017-06-16 01:18:02 UTC  

if i read and understand what he writes, don't i understand how to do things as well as he does?

2017-06-16 01:18:15 UTC  

the randian "most people are stupid" argument doesn't ring with me here