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And the result of his writings is idealism, mistake and nonsense.
Hegel strayed too far from observations.
You are going billions of years from observations. Hegel did better.
I no longer need cosmology. Aquinas has arguments that work with an eternal universe.
All time is relative.
Arguments again.
You can make observations about the past.
Most people can't make observations of present.
Which means...?
Their logic is a spook.
Their data is a spook too.
But they usualy persist.
Not sure of the reason for that.
I would argue that their methodology is flawed. Who am I to say why people ignore contrary results?
It is possible to show why people get things wrong.
Irrationality is demonstrable.
The world is not completely rational. They are irrational too as part of the world.
Of course.
But if you can get far with reason, why jump off?
Logical arguments are abstractions, yes. Logic is an abstract system. It is not 'wrong'. The premises, though, can be wrong, which makes the conclusions also wrong. But if the premises are accurate, the conclusions will also be accurate.
As observations improve, so do the abstract conclusions.
Always improving.
So why jump off?
>But if the premises are accurate, the conclusions will also be accurate
That is not true
That was Hegels mistake
I mean they are accurate relative to observation.
Correct logic based on correct observation can be also wrong. Most of the time it was wrong in our history.
No observation is 100% accurate. But observations improve. Is that what you mean by they were wrong?
'Wrong' is not the correct word.
Correct logic based on correct observation may lead to the false conclusion and false prediction.
Wait, logic is not only about making predictions. Also, how can correct logic/premise lead to false conclusions?
Have to walk my wife out. Thank you for your time. I'll try to answer this later.
No worries.
@Deleted User Hey I wonder, are you Polish too or just likes his music?
What's up my fellow comrades
do yall hate jews
yes
@millie Yeah, why we shouldn't? Most leftist founders hated the juice.
is this a tankie chat
there are tankies on here yea
but is it like all tankies
or just
kinda tankies
Im a DeLeonist
oh
ok good
This is a very diverse discord
Diversity is our strength
oh
this place is mostly just all kinds of people's common battleground and occasional non-autism
Basically
so
how exactly is this for "communists and anarchist"
aren't those terms the opposites
Both are progressive and heavily leftist?
They are different in their stance on authority.
i guess i can see that
both are pretty retarded aswell
>penis butter vajelly
>calling people retarded
>it's only a reference to the greatest adult animated show BoJack Horseman
>ideologies are not people
let's argue i want to fight
dead server
fuck all you niggas
ya'll just a bunch of posers
ok
The only way we can defeat the Fascist meance is by working together!
Until Day 1 after the revolution. Anarchists et al. have no coherent plan to survive it. Authoritarian Socialists will steamroll disorganised anarchist territories. Not just because they can, but so that you do not fall into imperialists hands with your lack of professional armies and whatnot.
In the modern world, I am a fundemntalist. In reality, I am a conservative.
Like how proudhonists and blanquists could work together
but marxists and anarchists can't
So is international a porn channel now?
sad!
are
we
vetting
now
Somebody was posting erotic content. We had to see it.
๐ก ๐จ๐ป ๐ฃ ๐ฅ โ ๐ฅ ๐ ๐ ๐ฅ ๐ผ๐ฟ
they're not even
spamming outside of <#308950154222895104>
Yeah
thank goodness.
@everyone
WHo is krushev
a corn hoarding revisionist
Explain
his de-stalinization program damaged the soviet union's industry and led to the decline of the economy
after stalin's death in 1953, niktia changed the stalinist economics policies which want good for the country
@Deleted User a traitor to the working class.
@wiggles You sure you're not forgetting the war?
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