this was a huge problem in america

even imf growth projections have been horrifically off

and the imf practically forces countries to go cappy and is a champion of the lassiez-faire

Make America Great Again

I believe we need to take back this slogan

America was never great

But we the workers can make america great

We can make america tolerant

Make America great

We can america safe for all people and etc

My pronouns are xir/xie btw nice to meet you

<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***Shadowfalcon#3781 has been warned***

this

this is the commie server

i think you're lost

r/the_donald friend

your mature, intelligent sense of humor will do quite well there

i hope the eighth grade is treating you well

allende did literally nothing wrong, friendo

i think you're about 5 years late to the party, bud

i see you're a man of refined taste. brb, better commit seppuku, i truly have no chance against a BBB (Big Brain Boy) such as yourself

>tfw the only thing that kept the chilean economy from totally crashing under pinochet's leadership was his failure to privatize the national copper reserves

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>tfw not even northern oil could save the english economy from thatcher's incompetence

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>venezuela
>cambodia
wot

Muh Venezuela

"hey guize 70% private industry is socialism"

Almost as bad as muh national *socialist*

I like how this implies that Ukraine and USSR were 2 different countries

Or that Cambodia was always lead by Pol Pot when it was unde Communism

Or that East Germany and all the other eastern block countries were nightmarish shitholes.

@DA GOMMIE JOO Socialist as in democratic socialism.

@Erika.ϟϟ🇮🇪 You wish.

@Deleted User real national socialism died when strasser left

Strasser was a marxist in disguise as a nationalist belief, the SS were justified to shoot him in the head.

Well thanks for admitting it then.

yeah the ussr weren't nationalists and strasser was

@Deleted User venezuela is socdem at best
demsoc isn't "the government does some things"

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 Demsoc is identical to soc dems.

not even close

@Erika.ϟϟ🇮🇪 Not really, strasser still believed in marxism and communism, which are inherently anti nationalist beliefs.

🤔

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 What difference is there?

democratic socialism is representative democracy where the workers own the means of production

social democracy is capitalism with band-aids on it

Not from what we see.

Show me one state where demsoc is a thing.

*Your definition of it at least

salvador allende was on his way to accomplishing it until the coup

An assured thing.

~~Why was there a coup?~~

because the CIA are faggots

they saw the word "socialism" and flipped their shit

because that's what the CIA does

If they did that then they would have couped venezuela by now.

venezuela isn't even demsoc

as I said it's socdem at best

There is no difference in the two, you cannot even show me an example that has evidence backing it.

"there is no difference in the two"

I posted this exact image and you disregarded it

Because wikipedia is best at explaining beliefs.

@DA GOMMIE JOO you’re being too nuanced in the way you’re looking at this

exactly what I said

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 And yet has there ever been a state that has done that?

Forgetting classification for a second

Don’t you think private property is directly linked to freedom?

no

property rights are a joke

@Deleted User as I was saying, tito's yugoslavia achieved this pretty well and managed to hold together several ethnic groups that all hate each other for 50 years

now say but you will but it's pretty impressive that he managed to hold yugoslavia together until he died

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 You got a source for that? And, keep in mind that yugoslavia died the same way the holy roman empire, and austria-hungary did, even though it was ironically supposed to unite the people.

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/05/11/world/titoism-without-tito-legacy-seems-buoyant.html

"The second is what is called socialist self-management, or employee participation through councils in decision making in industry and other enterprises."

>NYT
Oh boy, this will be good.

okay what would you consider to be reliable?

Do you think people have a right to liberty

@DA GOMMIE JOO

yes

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 Wait a minute.

If that’s the case why wouldn’t they be free to bargain using their time

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 The claim of socialist self management comes from the government officials of yugoslavia, meaning that it is practically propaganda.

What an excellent source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku2YViU3xhE

It's like if I said that there was no starvation in russia because stalin said so.

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 Now literal propaganda, what good sources.

"tito was terrible"
actual person who lived under tito: "tito was great"
"SHUT UP YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE OPPRESSED"

When did I claim that they were being oppressed?

What I claimed what that the claim that the "workers owned the factories" has little to back the claim, and the only evidence you can use is from propaganda sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJsnuANiu-Y

here's AP

and al-jazeera

fucking hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlhRJKi07Mg

here we go