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@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 What difference is there?

democratic socialism is representative democracy where the workers own the means of production

social democracy is capitalism with band-aids on it

Not from what we see.

Show me one state where demsoc is a thing.

*Your definition of it at least

salvador allende was on his way to accomplishing it until the coup

An assured thing.

~~Why was there a coup?~~

because the CIA are faggots

they saw the word "socialism" and flipped their shit

because that's what the CIA does

If they did that then they would have couped venezuela by now.

venezuela isn't even demsoc

as I said it's socdem at best

There is no difference in the two, you cannot even show me an example that has evidence backing it.

"there is no difference in the two"

I posted this exact image and you disregarded it

Because wikipedia is best at explaining beliefs.

@DA GOMMIE JOO you’re being too nuanced in the way you’re looking at this

exactly what I said

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 And yet has there ever been a state that has done that?

Forgetting classification for a second

Don’t you think private property is directly linked to freedom?

no

property rights are a joke

@Deleted User as I was saying, tito's yugoslavia achieved this pretty well and managed to hold together several ethnic groups that all hate each other for 50 years

now say but you will but it's pretty impressive that he managed to hold yugoslavia together until he died

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 You got a source for that? And, keep in mind that yugoslavia died the same way the holy roman empire, and austria-hungary did, even though it was ironically supposed to unite the people.

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/05/11/world/titoism-without-tito-legacy-seems-buoyant.html

"The second is what is called socialist self-management, or employee participation through councils in decision making in industry and other enterprises."

>NYT
Oh boy, this will be good.

okay what would you consider to be reliable?

Do you think people have a right to liberty

@DA GOMMIE JOO

yes

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 Wait a minute.

If that’s the case why wouldn’t they be free to bargain using their time

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 The claim of socialist self management comes from the government officials of yugoslavia, meaning that it is practically propaganda.