Lmao

XD

@Comrade Skeltal pol pot was communist

No he wasn't.

okay so hitler can be fascist but pol pot can't be a communist?

No communist would try to do agrarianism.

Pol pot was a monster, and a direct result of US foreign policy

So

same with hitler

@Deleted User suh zogdicks

suh

this commies are telling me gay shit

kill

this

we should kill all commies

this is why I am nazbol

nazbol != commie

@Orwellian Hate Machine let me explain something to you okay you fat piece of shit. the reason that you shove your fat fucking face with food made from the suffering and death of animals is because you're too fat and fucking stupid to eat healthy. Seeing as you look today you will most likely die at 30 of a heart attack because you dont put down your fucking burger and pick up some berries. It's fucking pathetic how you justify killing animals just so you can be obese you dumb piece of shit. I hope you feel the same suffering and death you inflict on animals. Put your fucking chicken nuggets down and pick up some celerly and grape juice.

National bolsheviks are fucking idiots.

@Alex the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist ummmm, racist and sexist much?

You don't steal the name of Bolshevik.

🤔

How was Hitler taking over his government a product of the US

I feel like you MIGHT be a troll

@Comrade Skeltal not gonna make your post, huh?

What did I just do

If you mean send a message

When you say post

Idk what you're even talking about or why.

saw you typing, Hitler is against fascism

no

hi

hi

HellO!

@Deleted Account 81241290a0u523 hitler was allies with mussolini tho

wanna see people who were REALLY AGAINST fascism?

even these guy to some extent, but at the end of the day it was in name only

@alines CNT-FAI got destroyed in their own game by the falange.

National syndicalism. The elephant in every room.<:rf:312044696727846934> +⚜ = 👽

@Haftist Man, you sure had issues typying that out.

Yes but it was worth it

@Deleted User no they were disarmed by their former allies in the republican movement

@alines Nope, the falange destroyed them.

because they were disarmed by the republicans

nester mahkno was based @alines

i know, wasn't he?

@alines And then the republicans were destroyed by franco and the falange.

right.
it all happened because of those marxist splitters trying to strangle competition from anarchists

@alines Nope, it was just sheer incompitence, and the fact that they got outclassed by the fascists.

uh-huh.
which is why franco had so much trouble fighting the anarchists before greedy republican intervention

the anarchists were the most powerful force against franco before the republican movement got stupid and decided to fight the anarchists too

proof that marxism will always be irredeemable

Was it Marxism in particular that betrayed Catalonia?

What was the ideological base for Catalonia?

Anarcho Syndicalism?

catalonia was anarchist.
yes, anarcho-syndicalist.
the republican movement was marxist

Did POUM fight the Anarchists?

I don't get how you blame Marxism itself for the betrayal of Catalonia

Orwell fought alongside the POUM

And they themselves blame the stalin

i don't think they did fight the anarchists

i guess i was generalizing

Do we have any marxist Leninist here who can scientifically explain the reasons?

I am sure they opposed anarchist societies because of reasons embedded in dialectical materialist logic

it is possible that i drove them away with anti-statist rhetoric

at least the more active ML users

Used to be a pretty anti Communist Anarchist

Anti Communist in the sense anti ML/MLM

But then it was the marxist concept of dialectical and historical materialism that convinced me to be a statist if not a pure ML commie

I like how this server doesn't have any visible roles

Not even mods/regulars

@Adarsh Balak Hello. ML here. Can you please formulate the question differently so I have a better understanding.

@Firefly I don't know much about the Spanish civil war.The anarchists and the trotskyists claim that the stalinists betrayed them.Is this statement true?

And even if the stalinist did oppose them

@Adarsh Balak Stalin was supporting anarchists with guns and powder.

I'm sure there were reasons based in ML theory

Marxist in Spain mostly been willing to work with syndicalists. But syndicalists often rejected the help due to ideological reasons.

After a time more organized, Marxist groups start winning local fights and anarchists losing. In that time anarchists lost a lot of power in the region and Marxist groups gained more.

Anarchists started to rebel against Marxists groups.

Including POUM?

The problem is they lost power and consider it as a betrayal.

All because they are not used to take responsibility of their actions.

@Adarsh Balak I don't know much details.

Orwell fought alongside a trotskyist militia

And yet he found reason to blame the MLs

But I guess Orwell and materialism didn't go well enough

All of them fought alongside when Marxist groups had no power yet. After they gain some everybody start to freak out a bit.

I thought the Marxists themselves had a split

Between the trotskyists and MLs

This split is always happening. Is happening all the time. Science of Marxism has nothing in common with situational and populist power gain tactics of Trotskiests

That is why we have to split before major events. Trotskyists and mensheviks will betray in the most important moment.

responsibility for what actions?

@alines for being disorganized, losing ground, losing in a war, losing power and influence.

decentralized != disorganized
losing ground to advances by former republican allies, losing the war because of intervention by republicans, losing power and influence, once again, because of republicans

they attacked the anarchist movement

spanish republicans are traitors

Do you see the difference with Marxist groups? When in 41-43 USSR been losing ground it didn't blame the Fascist. We say **WE** were not prepared. **WE** failed to defend. **WE** lost ground due to our misery and underdevelopment. Anarchists are never to blame themselves because they do not take responsibility of anything.