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No, not at all actually.
If rojava falls to the FSA and turkey, it is game over for the communists in syria.
The YPG? Aren't they influenced by the PKK? Who aren't very Leninist at all these days.
@Anthly Yes!
It is your opinion. Some Kurds might disagree. Some of them been very much Leninist.
The PKK renounced Leninism some time ago, embracing "Democratic Confederalism" which owes more to anarchism than Leninism.
@Anthly I remember from the propaganda videos the communists did in 2016, they actually flew a red and black flag, which is an anarchist flag.
@Firefly They were for a long time, but when their leader Ocalan read some Murray Bookchin, he changed the entire ideology of the organisation, dumping Marxism of any flavour and embracing small scale communes powered by solar power.
@Firefly So how will the game change for communist worldwide if the communists are destroyed by turkey?
*Communists in syria that is
@Anthly Does that explain why they have such big issues?
@Deleted User Not really. Mainly that Vice watching hipsters haven't been coming in huge numbers now that Rojava has been eclipsed in the radical news feed.
@Deleted User Our assessment is to claim back every progressive to fight in the ideological war and participate in the work of organization. Fighting in Middle East is useless at this point for communist movement.
@Anthly Their days are numbered, turkey has them in their sights after olive branch concludes, and their population that is actually migrating to SAA controlled territory, and their fighting forces made up of mostly ex-ISIS soldiers, dosen't help.
@Deleted User the liquidation of the radical Kurdish forces is more of a priority for the Turkish state than getting rid of ISIS and other Islamist forces.
If turkey invades rojava in syria with intention of taking as much territory as possible, then it is likely that syria will take back most of the territory they lost, that includes al-raqqah.
@Deleted User You're a fucking retard, these cyberattacks happened yesterday/today and you gave me a 2016 article.
...from Reuters...
@Anthly No, you don't get it, most of the SDF and rojava fighting force is made up of ex-ISIS members.
@fannybandit We moved on a long time ago, this is irrelevant now.
All Syrian territory must stay Syrian.
@Firefly Can't wait to see the tiger march into al-raqqah.
@Deleted User Then I'm calling you a retard in the past and present tense.
@fannybandit Okay.
@Deleted User I didn't realise that. I'm surprised to hear that, actually - the YPG were, "Bolsh as f***", as the kids say.
Who the fuck links a 2016 article for a present day situation?
Also, I'm not CIA...I think they're a terrorist group.
@Anthly Those who are fans of rojava and the SDF don't like to admit it, because it is shameful of them that they would support those who at any moment could rebel and preform jihad against the kurds.
@Deleted User Well, quite. That's what I was thinking. Unless those ex-ISIS are, effectively, either a) adventurists or b) mercinaries?
For most of them, they surrendered or were arrested, and were offered a posistion in the SDF/rojava.
While foreign mercanaries are a big part of the SDF and rojava, they don't have many of them, so that's why they recruit from the local population, or leech off of ISIS who are still present in syria.
Hmm, that brings to question why the population in those area's are migrating to SAA controlled areas.....
Safety, possibly.
Never underestimate the security of basic life under authoritarian regiemes.
Keep your gob shut, tip your hat to the secret police, bow to El Presidente, and life can just carry on.
They aren't authoritarian though, at least from what I have heard, it is mostly the instability, and chaos that reigns in the area's they control where there isn't military occupation/open warfare happening, where soldiers keep order.
SAA= Syrian Arab Army, right?
Yes.
AKA Assad's forces.
Syria isn't an authoritarian country? You might need to explain that one...
I was talking about the SDF and rojava.
Ah, OK - I was answering "why the population in those area's are migrating to SAA controlled areas"
I was saying that the SDF and rojava were chaotic wastelands.
I don't disagree! I wouldn't be surprised.
where my anarchist brothers at
probably out committing crimes
Not currently
What is this chat actually for?
I'm a centrist
@Deleted User Don't they already do that?
@F0X~{A Walker} a dangerous thing to claim in these parts
I have alot of chutzpah and that's only according to some political leaning tests I've taken
Plenty of those in my family were rebellious to the governments in charge of them
We didn't follow the government
I follow what needs to be followed
Not what they want me to
@Suleiman so what ?
I don't care I'm not a snowflake nor do I submit to one particular party
I say what I believe
this ain't /centrypol/ @F0X~{A Walker}
So what
I didn't come here for some kind of safe space
Or echo chamber
Fair enough, @F0X~{A Walker} and I admire your chutzpah.
I like to see both sides clearly
What do you mean by "Centrist"?
Hold on let me grab a link
Brb
I don't ask to be a dick, I ask because it means different things to different people, and I don't want to assume
If this link helps anything
Not quite centrist but sort of in the middle
Hmmm
Not really, the PC is just a random dot on a chart, it doesn't show me what kind of principles or ideas people hold dearly.
Fox are you at all having sexual intercourse with someone of the same gender?
In practical terms I lean more to the American right than left
fox
try Spekr
@Suleiman no
instead
@Deleted User you brit?
https://spekr.org/ < - do this @F0X~{A Walker} its more accurate
political compass sucks
you look british
the fuck is wrong with you people?
who looks British
you
well ofc i am
are you in NME?
no
darn
was hoping you were an indie rock band
Lol I can't take that test
I have no rock band
@Suleiman why are you letting a bunch of foreign invaders rape your women?
your children more accurately
@Anthly chutzpah is good as long as it isn't insulting and as long as the person receiving it isn't a liberal snowflake that easily falls apart
@F0X~{A Walker} Oh shit boi you're pretty near me
I should do the test again
but its soooo boring
Yeah
I've done it twice already and went much closer to the centre the last time
@F0X~{A Walker} Don't disagree. But what, would you say, are the key principles and ideas that you hold dear? That define how you see, interpret and interact with the world?
I can't say any because it's a case by case basis
I do believe more in hard work than someone giving you a hand out and usually if you are in a bad situation you can get yourself out of it
ive been trying to tell them to stop raping my women
but they just wont
umm....
Live under a government
that'll do
never
NEVER
Ok then you cant stop them
Who is raping "your" women?
Nah
i havent
Me
i just let them
Im joking bt
w
Yo who supports executing that parkland shooter?
Im not a rapist
maybe i like them post rape
And who might that be?
I dont support shooters
I have morals
The foreign invaders
Who are they?
>inb4 muh moralfag
it's a variety
^
variety
seems to be mostly pakistanis
@Mr. X can we execute him?
any of the blackies
The shooter
Execution is unnecessary and barbaric
I want to execute him because there is no doubt he killed those people in cold blood
Ahhh, that's better.
Then let him live out his sentence
i like watching my countrymen get raped
The only reason a suspected killer should sit in prison is if there is doubt he murdered
And by live out I mean be in prison all his life
No
Why pay for a proven psychopathic killer
To live
What's the difference between justice and vengence? Because for me, that's what capital punishment is; vengence.
Because killing them is the same as doing what he's done
The only reason he should be allowed to live is if there is doubt if he committed the crime
It's merely stooping to their level
no i aint joking
Best to cure them instead of being like them and killing them all the time
i want them
to rape my fellow people
that wont fix them or fix the issue
That literally would be pointless
And a waste
wow... fucking pathetic
cure them?
lol
let me ask you something E
I believe mental illness can be treated and cured one day.
If medical science progresses that is.
it's not mental illness
You just said he was clearly psychopathic
that's a mental illness
nope
You can't cure him as evident by many killers who get out of prison early
Sorry, I mean personality disorder which is less worse.
Psychopathic criminals usually can't be fixed
Especially a school shooter
Then put him in prison for life and study his brain more and find cures.
Execute him that's that
No psychopathic criminal can be fixed
they're psychopaths
Study the brains of the ones who could be innocent
best to cure them
oh you two are talking about something entirely different
That's useless
study the evil ones in order to prevent them from being evil in the future
You are too soft
yeah
Me?
Yes
How so?
Kill some of them
Some don't kill
Pointless
If it's legal in your state he should be executed if it isn't study their brains
That's pure sadism out of reasonable anger
For a cure
No he should be studied
never executed
Since Florida allows execution
He should be
He's a damaged autistic
Possibly psychotic
19
Killing him wont do anything but avoid progress
seriously
yes
shit man
There are plenty to study
No there isnt
and you are english?
yes
He happens to be in a executable state
you don't even give a fuck about this stuff?
Study the ones in non execution States
Or not execute them
Ugh shucks
*shucks*
hehe
instead simply just study them and cure them if possible
why would i
why would i care
tell me
why
if they cant be cured then study them while they're in prison for life
cus you are human
Because killing them is pointless
i think i am
anyway
The only reason why I'm against the death penalty is because of cases where people were executed wrongly because of new evidence. @Mr. X
Seriously anyone with any sense would know it's useless
it really puzzles me
But if there is no shadow of a doubt he murdered
Well execute him
arch
Again
it this just some coping mechanism cus you feel helpless, or are you really brainwashed somehow, or what
pointless
lets trade nudes
come on
lets trade
my nudes for yours
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