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2017-06-10 07:52:14 UTC

Nope

2017-06-10 07:52:14 UTC

jews

2017-06-10 07:52:23 UTC

Is there anything that isn't an abstraction?

2017-06-10 07:52:40 UTC

(((you)))

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323006540527304704/Them.png

2017-06-10 07:52:56 UTC

Outside world is both objective and abstract in your head.

2017-06-10 07:53:10 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323006666792501258/1496559018219.png

2017-06-10 07:53:35 UTC

Nope. Bothness is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:53:49 UTC

You guys like being part of a movement made by the eternal jew?

2017-06-10 07:54:00 UTC

Yes, it is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:54:11 UTC

left/pol/ is a mistake

2017-06-10 07:54:41 UTC

Objectivity is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:54:47 UTC

Yes!

2017-06-10 07:54:56 UTC

You starting to get it

2017-06-10 07:54:58 UTC

Abstraction is abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:55:03 UTC

Yes!

2017-06-10 07:57:22 UTC

Your mother is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:57:40 UTC

Yes, she is dead.

2017-06-10 07:58:05 UTC

Unfortunate.

2017-06-10 07:58:17 UTC

No regrets.

2017-06-10 08:02:35 UTC

This is a better kind of nihilism. ALL AND NOTHING: ABSTRACTION.

2017-06-10 08:03:23 UTC

Matter is not an abstraction. But it does not need a reason, only subject needs it for better survival.

2017-06-10 08:04:08 UTC

Matter also is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:04:21 UTC

In the same time.

2017-06-10 08:05:42 UTC

Nice gymnastics, but no. This is special pleading.

2017-06-10 08:05:57 UTC

"Matter is different than the rest, because it just is"

2017-06-10 08:06:20 UTC

It has difference not with the rest, but only with subject.

2017-06-10 08:06:43 UTC

Subject is a very little part of matter.

2017-06-10 08:07:01 UTC

It overestimates its importance.

2017-06-10 08:07:16 UTC

Abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:07:21 UTC

How not?

2017-06-10 08:07:54 UTC

I'm still not certain what is and what isn't an abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:08:04 UTC

Everything is, Mros.

2017-06-10 08:08:06 UTC

Yes, it is.

2017-06-10 08:08:09 UTC

The way you put it, not even matter itself is consistent

2017-06-10 08:08:23 UTC

Sometimes it is an abstraction and sometimes it isn't

2017-06-10 08:08:47 UTC

Matter is an abstraction. How is it not?

2017-06-10 08:08:49 UTC

Sometimes your mother is alive, sometimes not.

2017-06-10 08:09:04 UTC

If it is not - it is only an abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:09:15 UTC

So does matter simply stop existing?

2017-06-10 08:09:20 UTC

Alive and dead. Abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:09:22 UTC

If it is alive - it also material.

2017-06-10 08:09:33 UTC

Stop using reason.

2017-06-10 08:09:55 UTC

@Deleted User why stop? I'm subjective.

2017-06-10 08:10:05 UTC

Subject is irrational.

2017-06-10 08:10:10 UTC

It won't stop.

2017-06-10 08:10:43 UTC

It will use reason.

2017-06-10 08:10:49 UTC

It has a program to do so.

2017-06-10 08:11:09 UTC

Good for evolution.

2017-06-10 08:11:35 UTC

Subjectivity is abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:11:42 UTC

Nope.

2017-06-10 08:11:47 UTC

It also present.

2017-06-10 08:11:49 UTC

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

2017-06-10 08:12:01 UTC

It is both abstraction and material.

2017-06-10 08:12:19 UTC

So does matter ever cease to exist?

2017-06-10 08:12:19 UTC

You're being irrational.

2017-06-10 08:12:22 UTC

Subject exists objectively.

2017-06-10 08:12:57 UTC

Subject exists in material and as an abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:12:57 UTC

Presentness is also... you know what.

2017-06-10 08:13:29 UTC

You stlll using abstraction (A).

2017-06-10 08:13:33 UTC

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2017-06-10 08:14:04 UTC

How can you use (A) to show what is and isn't an (A)?

2017-06-10 08:15:04 UTC

It is simple logic. Dialectics say A is also B and C etc.

2017-06-10 08:15:30 UTC

Simple logic!

2017-06-10 08:15:40 UTC

Yes.

2017-06-10 08:15:56 UTC

Another time you say logic is wrong.

2017-06-10 08:16:03 UTC

More than one variable i know.

2017-06-10 08:16:17 UTC

Its more complicated than A = A.

2017-06-10 08:16:41 UTC

How come your logic is right and mine is wrong?

2017-06-10 08:16:51 UTC

But still good. Memorize. A is also B and also C etc...

2017-06-10 08:17:12 UTC

One logic reflects material world better.

2017-06-10 08:17:32 UTC

Because it is made for material world.

2017-06-10 08:17:38 UTC

Ah...

2017-06-10 08:17:57 UTC

Another logic is abstract.

2017-06-10 08:18:08 UTC

That's special pleading again.

2017-06-10 08:18:24 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323013016574754816/0856fe614f7ef0e3fe74a22f96f3ff3e_yaoming-meme-png-by-blinkytv-meme-icon-png_432-575.png

2017-06-10 08:19:46 UTC

Logic is not enough.

2017-06-10 08:19:56 UTC

Logic provides a connection between our models and our measurements and observations.

2017-06-10 08:20:01 UTC

Especially the lesser type of logic.

2017-06-10 08:20:26 UTC

A=A is a no brainer.

2017-06-10 08:20:32 UTC

Wew.

2017-06-10 08:20:54 UTC

There is so much more combinations. M = K and S and F.

2017-06-10 08:21:02 UTC

Much better and more complex logic.

2017-06-10 08:21:22 UTC

Dialectical materialism is the strongest in logic.

2017-06-10 08:21:37 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323013824196247553/sid-nancy-image-2.jpg

2017-06-10 08:21:54 UTC

What is so good about diamat and so bad about Aristotelian logic?

2017-06-10 08:22:27 UTC

It provides you a more objective perception of matter.

2017-06-10 08:22:48 UTC

How?

2017-06-10 08:23:00 UTC

By using a dialectical method.

2017-06-10 08:23:50 UTC

So you hope.

2017-06-10 08:24:15 UTC

I have no hope.

2017-06-10 08:25:00 UTC

The superiority of diamat is based in dogma

2017-06-10 08:25:23 UTC

But it gives us more agile thought method.

2017-06-10 08:25:35 UTC

So?

2017-06-10 08:25:51 UTC

It is good for the evolution.

2017-06-10 08:26:01 UTC

Keep going.

2017-06-10 08:26:04 UTC

For revolution too.

2017-06-10 08:26:21 UTC

You see you're reasons will infinitely regress.

2017-06-10 08:26:36 UTC

You have no reason, it is dogmatic belief.

2017-06-10 08:26:49 UTC

Reason is subjective.

2017-06-10 08:27:10 UTC

Just like diamat.

2017-06-10 08:27:42 UTC

Yes, it is a subjective form of objective.

2017-06-10 08:28:01 UTC

But you cannot explain why.

2017-06-10 08:28:09 UTC

It is better than other logic.

2017-06-10 08:28:37 UTC

Not very logical.

2017-06-10 08:28:56 UTC

Because it gives more options. Other logic is X = X. Our logic is complex. X is H and also P and will become K.

2017-06-10 08:29:20 UTC

And this makes it more or less true?

2017-06-10 08:29:23 UTC

Our logic is made to reflect matter in most pure form possible.

2017-06-10 08:29:41 UTC

No, it is based on your abstraction of matter.

2017-06-10 08:29:48 UTC

Yes.

2017-06-10 08:29:57 UTC

That is the same thing.

2017-06-10 08:30:09 UTC

An abstraction is not objective.

2017-06-10 08:30:22 UTC

It can be objective.

2017-06-10 08:30:31 UTC

More or less.

2017-06-10 08:30:35 UTC

Unlikely.

2017-06-10 08:31:21 UTC

It always is. Some people have better understanding of reality, some not. Some more objective.

2017-06-10 08:32:24 UTC

By random chance, sure. But because they hold diamat over Aristotelian logic? That is not clear since diamat is based on an abstraction (about logic) also.

2017-06-10 08:32:39 UTC

Switching to so simple logic would be like switching from Russian to English. It is terrible to use much less agile language.

2017-06-10 08:32:58 UTC

Even worse to use less agile logic.

2017-06-10 08:34:10 UTC

Here we go again with the infinite regress. 'Agility' makes is more or less true?

2017-06-10 08:34:38 UTC

Agility makes it more suitable to reflect matter.

2017-06-10 08:34:59 UTC

Does it?

2017-06-10 08:35:21 UTC

yes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323017282051768322/1490217747070.png

2017-06-10 08:35:48 UTC

You have an argument for that or are we just being dogmatic again.

2017-06-10 08:36:07 UTC

I'm speaking from experience this time.

2017-06-10 08:36:19 UTC

Do you have this experience too?

2017-06-10 08:36:32 UTC

Oh well then it's settle. Personal anecdote wins everytime.

2017-06-10 08:36:46 UTC

How can you recover?

2017-06-10 08:37:13 UTC

๐ŸŽ™

anarcho socialism for life

2017-06-10 10:44:04 UTC

What is up my fellow lefties

2017-06-10 10:44:17 UTC

Titoism am I right

2017-06-10 10:46:50 UTC

@Shrimpf Titoism is the light version of fascism.

2017-06-10 10:47:09 UTC

Everybody knows that.

2017-06-10 10:47:33 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2017-06-10 11:06:22 UTC

Watch "The Jeremy Corbeatles - "Fuck You, The Sun"" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/6OMvAsvykfY

2017-06-10 15:19:38 UTC

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2017-06-10 15:53:18 UTC

Raid kekistan

2017-06-10 15:53:33 UTC

Ahh

2017-06-10 15:53:39 UTC

That was the link I was looking for

2017-06-10 15:53:52 UTC

Hi all

2017-06-10 15:54:04 UTC

What this site?

2017-06-10 15:54:53 UTC

Another socialist discord

2017-06-10 16:12:35 UTC

Are traps gay?

2017-06-10 16:15:41 UTC

y

2017-06-10 16:19:53 UTC

y

2017-06-10 16:27:34 UTC

Identeties...

2017-06-10 16:27:41 UTC

Again

2017-06-10 16:36:37 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323138397981900801/FB_IMG_1497112438941.jpg

2017-06-10 17:10:06 UTC

What do you know about Gennadiy Zuganov?

2017-06-10 17:14:59 UTC

Isn't he just another Putin's shill?

2017-06-10 17:16:15 UTC

Leader of Communist Party of Russian Federation

2017-06-10 17:16:43 UTC

Isn't it the same thing?

2017-06-10 17:17:16 UTC

kek

2017-06-10 17:17:22 UTC

I guess yes

2017-06-10 17:18:50 UTC

Corbyn looks modern and respectable. Zuganov talk nonsense

2017-06-10 17:19:21 UTC

And have no independent position

2017-06-10 17:20:19 UTC

And also he create problems Russian left at all

2017-06-10 17:23:08 UTC

How you will explain this to babushkas and bureaucrats?

2017-06-10 17:24:28 UTC

Babushkas)

2017-06-10 17:24:38 UTC

It's sthg new

2017-06-10 17:25:00 UTC

Hard to explain it to teens

2017-06-10 17:25:28 UTC

NatSoc>Communism

2017-06-10 17:25:44 UTC

Who think or authority or liberal opposition

2017-06-10 17:26:29 UTC

And minority to nationalists, nazi and other scums

2017-06-10 17:26:45 UTC

>nazi

2017-06-10 17:26:47 UTC

>scum

2017-06-10 17:26:50 UTC

Choose one

2017-06-10 17:27:16 UTC

i believe you are in need of a Helicopter ride

2017-06-10 17:27:17 UTC

my man

2017-06-10 17:27:28 UTC

Nazi is not about socialism

2017-06-10 17:27:44 UTC

-Strasser

2017-06-10 17:29:02 UTC

It's reactionary financial bourgeois movement against workers and communist movements.

2017-06-10 17:32:23 UTC

And at power fascism (nazism is form of fascism) is open dictatorship of reactionary chovinist imperialist part of financial capital.

2017-06-10 17:33:00 UTC

These guys are fully opposite to left movement.

2017-06-10 17:42:33 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323154989235175426/864f3d28c2129b53.png

2017-06-10 18:59:52 UTC

Can a portuguese channel be open?

2017-06-10 19:02:12 UTC

maybe add a polling system to add channels?

2017-06-10 19:16:12 UTC

Lll

2017-06-10 19:17:56 UTC

If I don't have the permissions to create one, who can I ask it to?

2017-06-10 19:26:16 UTC

New channel is created. <#323179816847409164>

2017-06-10 19:31:12 UTC

communism will prevail

2017-06-10 20:08:38 UTC

@Firefly lol wtf is that fag maoist poster

2017-06-10 20:17:07 UTC

@National Trotskyist which one of them?

2017-06-10 20:18:57 UTC

Materialists do not care about your sexuality patterns. You like who you like and where you want.

2017-06-10 20:35:20 UTC
2017-06-10 20:51:16 UTC

It says "In maoism there is always space for you gays and lesbians"

2017-06-10 20:52:02 UTC

lol

2017-06-10 20:52:21 UTC

chinese culture known for its tolerence

2017-06-10 20:52:54 UTC

Maosim is in USA, India and many other countries now.

2017-06-10 20:53:12 UTC

I think real china is relatively more tolerant with Homosexuality

2017-06-10 20:53:12 UTC

well that is ture, also that is in russian

2017-06-10 20:54:10 UTC

Even UK got Harpral Brar

2017-06-10 21:07:33 UTC

wait what

2017-06-10 21:08:37 UTC

Billions of dollars project?

2017-06-10 21:08:39 UTC

if its used purely for the wall that's good I guess

2017-06-10 21:10:06 UTC

Why not just build a solar farm nearer to where you'll use it?

2017-06-10 21:10:28 UTC

The cost of the wall is huge.

2017-06-10 21:10:37 UTC

Materials cost a lot.

2017-06-10 21:11:32 UTC

the wall is unnecessary

2017-06-10 21:12:06 UTC

an open market between North America would be beneficial to the most

2017-06-10 21:12:33 UTC

How oligarchy will make money without solar panel wall?

2017-06-10 21:46:24 UTC

Hello reddit

2017-06-10 21:46:25 UTC

hola

2017-06-10 21:46:35 UTC

hello brothers

2017-06-10 21:46:40 UTC

we are left wing death squad

2017-06-10 21:46:50 UTC

forgive for bad english

2017-06-10 21:46:53 UTC

i still learn

2017-06-10 21:47:09 UTC

communism is good

2017-06-10 21:47:14 UTC

Im Serbian

2017-06-10 21:47:15 UTC

t.slav

2017-06-10 21:47:20 UTC

Jebem te mater

2017-06-10 21:47:53 UTC

man

2017-06-10 21:47:58 UTC

WHY DOES EVERYTHING COST

2017-06-10 21:47:59 UTC

the rich hav profited from the poor for long time

2017-06-10 21:48:00 UTC

LIKE WTF

2017-06-10 21:48:06 UTC

capitalism?

2017-06-10 21:48:14 UTC

market?

2017-06-10 21:48:17 UTC

labour?

2017-06-10 21:48:30 UTC

generally people being selfish?

2017-06-10 21:48:34 UTC

I love being a poor fag leaching off welfare

2017-06-10 21:48:36 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323216911494283264/14526641465850.jpg

2017-06-10 21:48:39 UTC

And cryin about trump

2017-06-10 21:48:41 UTC

Feelsgood

2017-06-10 21:49:11 UTC

only american choose not to see how them are oppressed

2017-06-10 21:49:53 UTC

i am glad i find communist server

2017-06-10 21:49:53 UTC

all else are right wing

2017-06-10 21:50:01 UTC

where are you from brothers?

2017-06-10 21:51:29 UTC

i am albania, both father and gransfather in comunism parti

2017-06-10 21:52:04 UTC

wrong

2017-06-10 21:52:08 UTC

no you are mistake

2017-06-10 21:52:18 UTC

we crush fashizm

2017-06-10 21:52:35 UTC

i trust you are joking

2017-06-10 21:53:04 UTC

becauze albanian are very egalitarjan by natur

2017-06-10 21:53:41 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323218190270201856/14837451794090.jpg

2017-06-10 21:54:00 UTC

and no, we dont suck the dick, becauze homosexualitet is frowned upon in societi

2017-06-10 21:54:01 UTC

"From grateful people"

2017-06-10 21:54:24 UTC

frogive me for i dont speak these language

2017-06-10 21:54:28 UTC

Nice

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