Message from @Firefly

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2017-06-10 08:07:21 UTC  

How not?

2017-06-10 08:07:54 UTC  

I'm still not certain what is and what isn't an abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:08:04 UTC  

Everything is, Mros.

2017-06-10 08:08:06 UTC  

Yes, it is.

2017-06-10 08:08:09 UTC  

The way you put it, not even matter itself is consistent

2017-06-10 08:08:23 UTC  

Sometimes it is an abstraction and sometimes it isn't

2017-06-10 08:08:47 UTC  

Matter is an abstraction. How is it not?

2017-06-10 08:08:49 UTC  

Sometimes your mother is alive, sometimes not.

2017-06-10 08:09:04 UTC  

If it is not - it is only an abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:09:15 UTC  

So does matter simply stop existing?

2017-06-10 08:09:20 UTC  

Alive and dead. Abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:09:22 UTC  

If it is alive - it also material.

2017-06-10 08:09:33 UTC  

Stop using reason.

2017-06-10 08:09:55 UTC  

@Deleted User why stop? I'm subjective.

2017-06-10 08:10:05 UTC  

Subject is irrational.

2017-06-10 08:10:10 UTC  

It won't stop.

2017-06-10 08:10:43 UTC  

It will use reason.

2017-06-10 08:10:49 UTC  

It has a program to do so.

2017-06-10 08:11:09 UTC  

Good for evolution.

2017-06-10 08:11:35 UTC  

Subjectivity is abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:11:42 UTC  

Nope.

2017-06-10 08:11:47 UTC  

It also present.

2017-06-10 08:11:49 UTC  

😮

2017-06-10 08:12:01 UTC  

It is both abstraction and material.

2017-06-10 08:12:19 UTC  

So does matter ever cease to exist?

2017-06-10 08:12:19 UTC  

You're being irrational.

2017-06-10 08:12:22 UTC  

Subject exists objectively.

2017-06-10 08:12:57 UTC  

Subject exists in material and as an abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:12:57 UTC  

Presentness is also... you know what.

2017-06-10 08:13:29 UTC  

You stlll using abstraction (A).

2017-06-10 08:13:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323011794761154560/98242af6a8349293c82cbb9b445ca5cf71bab5955d0fa80dd3406ca6f77c516f.jpg

2017-06-10 08:14:04 UTC  

How can you use (A) to show what is and isn't an (A)?

2017-06-10 08:15:04 UTC  

It is simple logic. Dialectics say A is also B and C etc.

2017-06-10 08:15:30 UTC  

Simple logic!

2017-06-10 08:15:40 UTC  

Yes.

2017-06-10 08:15:56 UTC  

Another time you say logic is wrong.

2017-06-10 08:16:03 UTC  

More than one variable i know.

2017-06-10 08:16:17 UTC  

Its more complicated than A = A.

2017-06-10 08:16:41 UTC  

How come your logic is right and mine is wrong?

2017-06-10 08:16:51 UTC  

But still good. Memorize. A is also B and also C etc...

2017-06-10 08:17:12 UTC  

One logic reflects material world better.