Whether perfect or not

That was probably the first debate I listened to where I came away from it with a headache. The constant shouting from Sargon whenever Spencer said something he didn't like was unbearable

He wasn't saying that's how reality is

He's saying reality should be close to that

But Spencer wanted to feel powerful about calling people autistic and saying he lives in "reality where states have control over people"

@Cam Sargon does that with everyone. Although somehow a leftist YouTuber managed to help him understand the difference between private and personal property

Sargon's entire scope seems to be free access to porn and vidya and being able to say mean things online without police at his door.

And ramble on about "white people knowing other white people"

Cause he's also an illegitimate cow

Mooooo

As I said, alt-right mocks the shit out of Spencer. Someone like Mike Enoch may be better to talk to about the alt-right, since I listened to Mike Enoch's response to Sargon's questions for the alt-right and actually seemed to know what he was talking about.

Yea idfk who that is

I'll figure it out later

I didn't until a couple days ago.

But if they talk about ethnostates I'm 100% positive it's going to be retarded

Fine I'll read into them if you read more into Marx. Then we'll have nice happy intellectual exchange. Sound good? @Cam

Daily reminder that the yellow century is soon upon us

Guy seems to be an alt-right ethnonationalist type like Spencer but actually smart.
I'll try finding time to read up on your heroes, I would rather get some programming projects out the way first.

I like how they consistently referenced communism in their debate simply by saying "Its good in theory but doesn't work"

As if they'd even cracked open the theory to begin with

Life is also good in theory but does not work

It's that Korean guy who loves death

And aren't still under the impression people don't keep their toothbrushes

_quick hide your cell phone, they'll *totally* try and redistribute it!_

Fuckin shenanigans :l

Kek, well the idea of wealth redistribution is fucking retarded because the second you start buying things for yourself, the idea of having it taken off you "for the greater good" is extremely undesirable.

So you'll get nearly no cooperation from people who don't believe in "the greater good" and want to support their families to give them the best life possible.

Hence why it isn't an option, and hence why it's not literally taking sums of money from one person to give to another person, plus that doesn't solve shit if the money is still allowed to be concentrated back into power centers

There isn't some national tip jar that gets passed around by armed guards

Its things like capital

That get redistributed.

Not things like

But capital in and of itself

So you want to start stealing people's money from them?

You mean in the same way they have money stolen from their labor?

You're gonna start whining about CEOs taking home large pay packets, aren't you?

Or bankers taking home huge amounts of retirement money

Not about large or small pay packets

Its pay at all

The need for a middle man is nonexistent

You want to abolish money

If the resources exist,

And people want to apply their labour to use those resources to make a living, or a good, or what have

You

They should do so

You want to build a society on barter?

As they did through the entirety of human society

Before capital

It was only until violent enclosure that you needed a CEO getting paid to sell yourself to make a living

You are trying to make a case for society to be built on barter

Gift economy is just yet another mode of distribution, you obviously don't need to haul around the tangible goods

You can have a medium of exchange that doesn't entail a market

Its not like I'm asking people to trade horses or couches

So calling it a barter or implying such a thing is meh

Whether it's barter or not, I think we both know I mean making goods for the sake of the goods themselves,

Not the wage to then go buy goods

Barter is the direct trade of goods and services without the use of money.
You essentially want to end the entire finance industry because you think money is bad. And you want to replace what is used to help set a standard of relative value between goods with nothing.

Read what I said above

Your idea would lead to huge job loss.

Read

Whay

I said

Above

It said nothing about the abolition of a medium of sale

Then what will you replace money with? More money?

The idea is to move the value away from capital, and to the distribution of goods

What that means is no, You don't literally have to abolish money, just not yet

But just because no money exists doesn't mean people don't work

There is no "human nature" argument to be had there

*just not yet*
Still gonna lead to huge job loss and the abolition of an entire industry, then?

No?

You're operating within a capitalist market, then sure,

But the idea is to abolish the market as the means of distribution

Would Labour unions prevent It?

People wouldn't just stop working

Labour unions prevent what?

Job losses

If you entire argument for the refutation of anything less than capitalism is _the finance market_

Well, they'd probably try and prevent the entire finance industry being abolished, yes.

See

Syndicalism works

For Wall Street in this instance, yes.

Then idk what to tell toy

Wow

That last message

Didnt send

Abolish the American jewry?

I like the idea

If your entire argument against anything short of capitalism

Is the loss of finance as an industry

As if the majority of the human experience is backed through the endeavors of a finance industry

I like capitalism. Money and food are desirable to me, I dunno what to say.

As if that's how either you or I pay your bills or survive

The idea of capitalism is not the bad thing

Then there isn't much to say other than you value the lives of a relatively small number of people

The bad thing is the people using the system

At the expensive of a global population

Because seriously

Its fucking finance

I put my own nation first. I'm not a humanist.