Message from @Comrade Skeltal

Discord ID: 400746108441067528


2018-01-10 20:13:15 UTC  

Guy seems to be an alt-right ethnonationalist type like Spencer but actually smart.
I'll try finding time to read up on your heroes, I would rather get some programming projects out the way first.

2018-01-10 20:13:23 UTC  

I like how they consistently referenced communism in their debate simply by saying "Its good in theory but doesn't work"

2018-01-10 20:13:47 UTC  

As if they'd even cracked open the theory to begin with

2018-01-10 20:13:55 UTC  

Life is also good in theory but does not work

2018-01-10 20:13:56 UTC  

It's that Korean guy who loves death

2018-01-10 20:13:59 UTC  

And aren't still under the impression people don't keep their toothbrushes

2018-01-10 20:15:02 UTC  

_quick hide your cell phone, they'll *totally* try and redistribute it!_

2018-01-10 20:15:15 UTC  

Fuckin shenanigans :l

2018-01-10 20:17:46 UTC  

Kek, well the idea of wealth redistribution is fucking retarded because the second you start buying things for yourself, the idea of having it taken off you "for the greater good" is extremely undesirable.

2018-01-10 20:18:23 UTC  

So you'll get nearly no cooperation from people who don't believe in "the greater good" and want to support their families to give them the best life possible.

2018-01-10 20:19:57 UTC  

Hence why it isn't an option, and hence why it's not literally taking sums of money from one person to give to another person, plus that doesn't solve shit if the money is still allowed to be concentrated back into power centers

2018-01-10 20:20:18 UTC  

There isn't some national tip jar that gets passed around by armed guards

2018-01-10 20:20:21 UTC  

Its things like capital

2018-01-10 20:20:33 UTC  

That get redistributed.

2018-01-10 20:20:43 UTC  

Not things like

2018-01-10 20:20:48 UTC  

But capital in and of itself

2018-01-10 20:21:07 UTC  

So you want to start stealing people's money from them?

2018-01-10 20:21:22 UTC  

You mean in the same way they have money stolen from their labor?

2018-01-10 20:21:41 UTC  

You're gonna start whining about CEOs taking home large pay packets, aren't you?

2018-01-10 20:21:57 UTC  

Or bankers taking home huge amounts of retirement money

2018-01-10 20:21:57 UTC  

Not about large or small pay packets

2018-01-10 20:21:59 UTC  

Its pay at all

2018-01-10 20:22:06 UTC  

The need for a middle man is nonexistent

2018-01-10 20:22:07 UTC  

You want to abolish money

2018-01-10 20:22:12 UTC  

If the resources exist,

2018-01-10 20:22:39 UTC  

And people want to apply their labour to use those resources to make a living, or a good, or what have

2018-01-10 20:22:41 UTC  

You

2018-01-10 20:22:43 UTC  

They should do so

2018-01-10 20:22:48 UTC  

You want to build a society on barter?

2018-01-10 20:22:52 UTC  

As they did through the entirety of human society

2018-01-10 20:22:55 UTC  

Before capital

2018-01-10 20:23:18 UTC  

It was only until violent enclosure that you needed a CEO getting paid to sell yourself to make a living

2018-01-10 20:23:18 UTC  

You are trying to make a case for society to be built on barter

2018-01-10 20:24:07 UTC  

Gift economy is just yet another mode of distribution, you obviously don't need to haul around the tangible goods

2018-01-10 20:24:20 UTC  

You can have a medium of exchange that doesn't entail a market

2018-01-10 20:24:37 UTC  

Its not like I'm asking people to trade horses or couches

2018-01-10 20:24:49 UTC  

So calling it a barter or implying such a thing is meh

2018-01-10 20:25:14 UTC  

Whether it's barter or not, I think we both know I mean making goods for the sake of the goods themselves,

2018-01-10 20:25:20 UTC  

Not the wage to then go buy goods

2018-01-10 20:25:33 UTC  

Barter is the direct trade of goods and services without the use of money.
You essentially want to end the entire finance industry because you think money is bad. And you want to replace what is used to help set a standard of relative value between goods with nothing.

2018-01-10 20:25:39 UTC  

Read what I said above