Message from @Cam
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Or bankers taking home huge amounts of retirement money
Not about large or small pay packets
Its pay at all
The need for a middle man is nonexistent
You want to abolish money
If the resources exist,
And people want to apply their labour to use those resources to make a living, or a good, or what have
You
They should do so
You want to build a society on barter?
As they did through the entirety of human society
Before capital
It was only until violent enclosure that you needed a CEO getting paid to sell yourself to make a living
You are trying to make a case for society to be built on barter
Gift economy is just yet another mode of distribution, you obviously don't need to haul around the tangible goods
You can have a medium of exchange that doesn't entail a market
Its not like I'm asking people to trade horses or couches
So calling it a barter or implying such a thing is meh
Whether it's barter or not, I think we both know I mean making goods for the sake of the goods themselves,
Not the wage to then go buy goods
Barter is the direct trade of goods and services without the use of money.
You essentially want to end the entire finance industry because you think money is bad. And you want to replace what is used to help set a standard of relative value between goods with nothing.
Read what I said above
Your idea would lead to huge job loss.
Read
Whay
I said
Above
It said nothing about the abolition of a medium of sale
Then what will you replace money with? More money?
The idea is to move the value away from capital, and to the distribution of goods
What that means is no, You don't literally have to abolish money, just not yet
But just because no money exists doesn't mean people don't work
There is no "human nature" argument to be had there
*just not yet*
Still gonna lead to huge job loss and the abolition of an entire industry, then?
No?
You're operating within a capitalist market, then sure,
But the idea is to abolish the market as the means of distribution
Would Labour unions prevent It?
People wouldn't just stop working
Labour unions prevent what?
Job losses