Define corporate

Corporate in the liberal sense, no

Any business interests

No

I was a corporatist as a Strasserist but we have a different definition of "corporation" than most people do. It refers to guild socialism.

Are you for business to be under the correct authority of the socialist state?

I'd probably be in favor of heavily regulated cooperatives with profit sharing

Along with some state heavy industry

All business shall serve the socialist state.

Is this statement correct?

Essentially and they'd be worker owned

They wouldn't be businesses in the capitalist sense

The only "owners" of the state industry would be the head ministers, other than that you'd still have profit sharing

along with smaller "businesses" being less heavily regulated cooperatives

>when the communist believes in market socialism and tries to convert a market socialist to market socialism also without realizing he hates market socialists

I think economy should be heavily centralized, planned and governed by the socialist state.

I don't know who's Jewing who!

@Firefly Heavy industry for sure.

@Deleted User Oy Vey!

@Revolutionary Nationalist In the beginning, for many decades it applies mostly to heavy industry.

True

Why not all industry?

what was the Jew's name?

Erwin?

You might as well go the full mile

@Deleted User Impossible to coordinate properly right away.

@Deleted User I don't give a shit about small business as long as they're cooperativised

@Firefly Honestly that could be said for anything related to economic bureaucracy

With institutions in place, with computing and networking and after long period of preparation it is possible, but not right away.

It is an off-handed remark

@Revolutionary Nationalist how cooperatives are better than central planning?

Because if it's done right they ARE the central planning

The idea of the corporate system is basically syndicatalism, the unions that run the industry are stemming off of the government

So the most the bureaucrats do is manage it

And the union strata work the rest

Or guild rather

@Deleted User You are more business centered than socialist government centered than.

Only proper authority has to have power.

Business must obey.

Business is for the people not people for business.

And if it does not comply it is nationalized.

In the most radical way.

@Firefly Basically what @Deleted User said

What to do with the personal interest of the business which might contradict the interest of the state?

Because after establishing cooperatives in USSR under perestoika it all went to shit due to the business interests.

Cooperatives were undermining Soviet economy for 30 years causing stagnation.

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/134105338

**ANTIFA GENERAL: We are here and will never leave edition**

@Firefly Are you really a fan of antifa?

They have potential. The future.

Right now they are sort of autist.

With the proper authority they evolve.

They have always been autistic.

They are nothing more than SJW's and tools for george soros.

The true antifa is not forgotten yet.

"True antifa"

The true antifa is a tool by george soros.

they're Antifa, they're crazy

and it's not just one group obviously

Even the faggots in rojava are either kikes who were paid by soros or are ex isis terrorists who would gladly massacre civilans.

https://youtu.be/Su3UjGRK9FY

Antifa will never be more than a group of college pussies who's only goal will be to cause chaos and distress while failing miserably at it.

I can't imagine supporting antifas actions

Imagine having fascists, nazi's, commies and such smashing cars and businesses because they want their stupid little cause to be adopted

It's no way to run a group, no one takes your shit seriously

It's almost like actual communists don't endorse them

@Timo))) yes, more organized antifa terror is necessary.

yeah, most don't support Antifa

if you want to get your head smashed in by riot police sure, more action

You won't win because it's a laughably small group

@Timo))) not rioting. I'm speaking of a party and discipline.

are you anti rioting?

yes

oh good

Terror is better when organized, yes?

I'm glad you agree antifa needs more authority and discipline.

Depends on the cause, islamic terrorism maybe

antifa will never get people to agree with them with riots and terror

It is just they act so disorganized. They need organization, right?

they need a new ideology first of all

And leave private property alone

Yes, discipline and authority.

they're already a domestic terrorist organisation in one state and with good reason

what they do is cause chaos for political goals and many times it gets violent

I hope people here see how right-wing laugh at disorganized antifa and look into better organization practices.

what would be those organization practices?

what they're doing is radical and it's a fine line between political violence and terrorism

Antifa are Anarcho-Communists, they're not going to organise

@Timo))) It depends. I'm not yet looking into them much myself.

they're only so popular because it's not really taboo to be a part of them

although if you say you're a skinhead that's real fucking taboo

The important part that right-wing encourages us to organize. It is a good thing.

even if you're not political it's taboo

I don't think the right harps on how organized they are, more of who they are behind the mask and how far out their ideas are in a country that is run pretty well all things considered

@Timo))) I mean if scroll up you see people laughing on disorganized antifa. I think the same people won't laugh when we are organized.

the only right that is organised are the cuck-right

they're the type that compromise

and the whole thing is just idpol now