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They wouldn't be businesses in the capitalist sense
The only "owners" of the state industry would be the head ministers, other than that you'd still have profit sharing
along with smaller "businesses" being less heavily regulated cooperatives
>when the communist believes in market socialism and tries to convert a market socialist to market socialism also without realizing he hates market socialists
I think economy should be heavily centralized, planned and governed by the socialist state.
I don't know who's Jewing who!
@Firefly Heavy industry for sure.
@Deleted User Oy Vey!
@Revolutionary Nationalist In the beginning, for many decades it applies mostly to heavy industry.
True
Why not all industry?
what was the Jew's name?
Erwin?
You might as well go the full mile
@Deleted User Impossible to coordinate properly right away.
@Deleted User I don't give a shit about small business as long as they're cooperativised
@Firefly Honestly that could be said for anything related to economic bureaucracy
With institutions in place, with computing and networking and after long period of preparation it is possible, but not right away.
It is an off-handed remark
@Revolutionary Nationalist how cooperatives are better than central planning?
The idea of the corporate system is basically syndicatalism, the unions that run the industry are stemming off of the government
So the most the bureaucrats do is manage it
And the union strata work the rest
Or guild rather
@Deleted User You are more business centered than socialist government centered than.
Only proper authority has to have power.
Business must obey.
Business is for the people not people for business.
And if it does not comply it is nationalized.
In the most radical way.
@Firefly Basically what @Deleted User said
What to do with the personal interest of the business which might contradict the interest of the state?
Because after establishing cooperatives in USSR under perestoika it all went to shit due to the business interests.
Cooperatives were undermining Soviet economy for 30 years causing stagnation.
**ANTIFA GENERAL: We are here and will never leave edition**
@Firefly Are you really a fan of antifa?
They have potential. The future.
Right now they are sort of autist.
With the proper authority they evolve.