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2017-05-17 06:34:15 UTC

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2017-05-17 06:44:08 UTC

im hungry

2017-05-17 07:19:01 UTC

Eat the rich

2017-05-17 07:19:37 UTC

they left the country or got killed long ago

2017-05-17 07:20:04 UTC

Follow them

2017-05-17 09:43:24 UTC

The Empire is a galactic, constitutional monarchy and fascist government. An interesting choice for a Soviet motif.

2017-05-17 10:01:48 UTC

Question: is there anything that Marx was wrong about?

2017-05-17 10:21:04 UTC

Hello

2017-05-17 10:22:12 UTC

Question: is there anything that Marx was right about?

2017-05-17 10:24:06 UTC

Almost all

2017-05-17 10:24:16 UTC

hmm

2017-05-17 10:24:20 UTC

the theory of value is 5% false

2017-05-17 10:24:28 UTC

in a study of 2010

2017-05-17 10:24:56 UTC

then, the thing about nations and how to achieve power

2017-05-17 10:25:02 UTC

anarchist critiques

2017-05-17 10:27:10 UTC

Communism conceived about post-scarcity would have to be raised in a lot of years yet

2017-05-17 10:27:29 UTC

he didn't know about the developments of today like cybernetics for doing socialism

2017-05-17 10:30:46 UTC

Liberals and socdems claim that marxism doesn't have inside other issues; but Marx already talked about ecology https://monthlyreview.org/2015/12/01/marxism-and-ecology/

2017-05-17 10:31:18 UTC

And marxism was already the first doing intersectional analysis before the liberals and socdems thought that they were discovering something new

2017-05-17 10:34:46 UTC

Marxism, unlike liberals and socdems, doesn't ignore the centrality of class struggle for the total liberation of ecology and for the equality of genres; this can't be done in the other systems, as well as the dependence for the family

2017-05-17 10:37:30 UTC

How a society would be like, the problems of Mises and Hayek solved, here: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/new_socialism.pdf It's a model for a socialist society with central planning in real time

2017-05-17 14:03:09 UTC

@Firefly ะฟะพั‡ะธัั‚ะธั‚ะต ั€ัƒััะบะธะน ะบะฐะฝะฐะป, ะฟะถะฐะปัั‚ะฐ

2017-05-17 15:39:02 UTC

hey

2017-05-17 15:39:47 UTC

๐Ÿ˜„

2017-05-17 15:42:06 UTC

Hey

2017-05-17 15:43:13 UTC

how u doin

2017-05-17 15:44:18 UTC

Doing alright. Downloading some anime and Visual Novels plus listening to Nando Moura.

2017-05-17 15:45:04 UTC

cool

2017-05-17 16:26:37 UTC

i hope you didnt buy it

2017-05-17 16:26:54 UTC

visual novels are so fucking overpriced

2017-05-17 17:24:18 UTC

Why are heterosexual white males hated so much?

2017-05-17 17:31:20 UTC

are they?

2017-05-17 17:36:20 UTC

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2017-05-17 17:36:49 UTC

I think it could be positive discrimination if something

2017-05-17 17:37:05 UTC

The focus on the oppressed doesn't mean hating that people

2017-05-17 17:37:10 UTC

no discrimination is positive

2017-05-17 17:37:13 UTC

lol

2017-05-17 17:37:28 UTC

discrimination of bourgeois

2017-05-17 17:37:29 UTC

to make a balance

2017-05-17 17:37:31 UTC

is good

2017-05-17 17:37:38 UTC

fascists too

2017-05-17 17:37:46 UTC

thats about it

2017-05-17 17:37:55 UTC

thats class

2017-05-17 17:37:57 UTC

tho

2017-05-17 17:38:22 UTC

trips to the gulag to the bourgeois

2017-05-17 17:38:36 UTC

for only $19.17 per person

2017-05-17 17:39:05 UTC

*a third worldist whines because they have better conditions*

2017-05-17 17:40:11 UTC

first class bourgeois gulag cells for only$19.45

2017-05-17 17:40:45 UTC

fyre festival style

2017-05-17 17:41:16 UTC

love me

2017-05-17 17:42:21 UTC

no u

2017-05-17 17:45:49 UTC

*kisses*

2017-05-17 18:08:28 UTC

I have a question: would we be considered bourgeoisie or is that a term used for people that employ workers?

2017-05-17 18:10:11 UTC

bouregoise is the rich middle class which owns businesses or corperations

2017-05-17 18:11:16 UTC

having a lot of money as a middle class worker doesnt really fit the position of bouregoise

2017-05-17 18:11:59 UTC

Ok

2017-05-17 18:12:19 UTC

What do you guys think about financial analysts or people that work in finance?

2017-05-17 18:12:59 UTC

my ma is not bourgeoise even though she is a banker and has associates working under her because she worked her way to the position under a boss

2017-05-17 18:13:19 UTC

which she still does

2017-05-17 18:14:03 UTC

So what you're saying is that as long as there is someone above you, you can't be a bourgeoisie?

2017-05-17 18:25:32 UTC

Workers don't exploit anyone

2017-05-17 18:25:48 UTC

They aren't extracting surplus value from other workers, they don't own the business

2017-05-17 18:26:27 UTC

If something they could receive wages from other workers, passed from the bourgeoisie; that's called the labour aristocracy

2017-05-17 18:33:10 UTC

What about a financial analyst that gambles the savings of others or bets on the livelihoods of others?

2017-05-17 18:35:29 UTC

probably labour aristocracy

2017-05-17 18:35:54 UTC

but speculation?

2017-05-17 18:38:03 UTC

Some marxist economists consider it another for of exploitation

2017-05-17 18:38:19 UTC

but they aren't owning other workers

2017-05-17 18:43:03 UTC

I feel bad now because I might study finance in school

2017-05-17 18:43:56 UTC

No

2017-05-17 18:44:26 UTC

Other person would do otherwise

2017-05-17 18:44:48 UTC

a society can't be changed voluntarily by studying this or not

2017-05-17 18:45:04 UTC

as i understand it

2017-05-17 18:45:19 UTC

if you own MOP and hire people, you are bourgeoisie

2017-05-17 18:45:33 UTC

you dont own MOP and work for wage, you are proletarian

2017-05-17 18:45:49 UTC

yes

2017-05-17 18:46:06 UTC

but there are labour aristocracy analysis, and maoist third worldists

2017-05-17 18:46:15 UTC

bourgeois can be big, medium, very big (etc) or petit bourgeoisie

2017-05-17 18:46:48 UTC

petit bourgeoisie is bourgeoisie that owns MOP, hire people but doesnt extract enough surplus value because it owns few MOP and he has to work himself

2017-05-17 18:46:52 UTC

But can't you for an example own a foodstand, and not having anyone employed, and still be an Poletarian?

2017-05-17 18:46:53 UTC

basically small business

2017-05-17 18:47:14 UTC

if you own a MOP and only work yourself here

2017-05-17 18:47:18 UTC

you are self employed

2017-05-17 18:47:31 UTC

which is technically a petit bourgeois but you are like the smallest bourgeois possible

2017-05-17 18:47:48 UTC

peasant who works on his private piece of land, even if he is very poor, is bourgeois

2017-05-17 18:47:52 UTC

just very small

2017-05-17 18:48:09 UTC

if peasant works on someone's else land for wage, however, he is proletarian

2017-05-17 18:48:10 UTC

Okay, that means most of my family is petty bourgeois...

2017-05-17 18:48:19 UTC

this is why Lenin said that peasants have double heart

2017-05-17 18:48:25 UTC

well

2017-05-17 18:48:32 UTC

my father is very bright example of petit bourgeois

2017-05-17 18:48:41 UTC

he is director of small factory

2017-05-17 18:48:54 UTC

but he works himself in the office

2017-05-17 18:49:08 UTC

Are there still factories in Russia?

2017-05-17 18:49:17 UTC

what kind of question is this

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