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@slack look up the socialist state of burkino faso

Thomas Sankara is fucking awesome

https://8values.github.io/

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Social liberalism: 🤢

no u

Social communism: 👌

i keep getting democratic socialist

@★ Commissar Regi ★

garbage

Kek

This is good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOmPewjgO48

>materialism

>2017

>not having enough so you want to steal it

>helping someone else steal it for you only to have it denied again but you do nothing because he holds a title you admire

That's a cute caricature. Would you care to summarise your argument?

Summary: Communists are fools lead on by greed rather than necessity

Copy & Paste retort incoming

I'm sure it appears that way from your point of view where everything is reduced to greed. Marx's idea was that revolutions were inevitable, regardless of the motivation.

I argue not of the philosophy of Marx I argue of communists.

Fascism is also in accordance with the idea of revolutions yet I don't see many people here siding with it

What do you call a 'communist' who does not understand Marx? A traitor.

Yes, some revolutions result in a new form like Fascism. I am quite familiar. I was unironically a Fascist for several years.

Maybe still am. I am new to Marx.

>new form like fascism

>fascism is a political form

Fascism was a reaction to Communism and the first world war.

Fasces, a bundle. It isn't about politics nor economics fascism is supposed to be the base of human civilization via an organic, shifting state

That utilizes its many forms to create a perpetual and unbreakable machine

What you're thinking of are reactionaries, monarchists, and capitalists

We will have to wait and see. You say Fascism is greater than its fruits, I say the same for Communism.

You understand the double standard.

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#too large

Anyhow I'm not saying fascism is "greater than its fruits". It's much the same of the communist's desires, the difference being that fascism doesn't bother with menial matters such as attempting to bend nature to force true equality

There's an end goal but the end goal is limitless, much like the Marxist revolution

If that makes any sense

Why shouldn't man be molded into a higher form?

Of course man can, this is part of the progression of nature. Evolution is inevitable

So then if Marx predicts man will evolve in a certain way, a better way, a provides a guide to this form, Communism, what is so 'bothering' about that?

>Marx invented communism

A suggestion isn't a postulation of inevitability.

It depends on how convincing it is. Marxism is based on knowledge and objectivity. If that is not convincing to you, what can I say.

Fascism is based off of nature which is likewise

If I said "universal truth" you wouldn't understand me

Fascism is an attempt to create a society that doesn't follow the abstract but follows what works (in nature) and cycles between tools or systems economically and politically.

If Marx had lived to see the idea of fascism, in its true form especially, he would have been a fascist philosopher 100%

Of course whether or not he would have still believed one of the next steps was a collective society I couldn't say

I doubt that. When you understand Dialectical Materialism, Fascism looks like child's play. The scope is small in comparison.

Fascism is actually based around countering exactly that

That's where the gripes about abstractions really comes in, philosophically and economically

I think that is a fair statement.

>when you understand dialectical materialism

oh my god, tip that fuckin fedora m80

why does leftist political philosophy make you sound like such a faggot?

Greenpill me on why state capitalism is bad

Uh because capitalism is UNFAIR Regi!!

😡!!!

Human concpets of value must be dictated by the state, goyim

didnt you know this?

study the (((dialectic)))

@Deleted User

lolol

Equality isn't really the correct concept, people should strive for equity

you dont have the right word for what you're saying

Oh, I forgot that equality isn't sufficient.

These monkeys are proposing 'equality of outcome' in order to trick the proles into backing their social experiment.

equality, in all functional purpose, ought to be spoken as 'equality under the law'

expecting two people to be equal in any way other than how the law ought to approach them...

stupid as fuck fam

Equality is an unwitting lie

Nature is simply unfair

Unequal

BTW, if a marxist should ever figure out the direct philosophical reason i'm shitposting in this ocean of failure-oriented political systems, i will give some reward, idk what yet

That does not mean you cannot live comfortably, nor be successful

But everyone has a place, they find, in the end

It's really by gentleman's agreement that I don't stab ppl irl.

You ought to thank someone for that social contract.

@Deleted User >Equality is an unwitting lie

As well as democracy.

Exactly

It just ends up as mob rule

If not never becoming what is promised

Same goes for utopian ideals

(What I mean is it either becomes something far off of what it's supposed to be or it never is)

On average your functional political system is actually an alpha blending of no less than 6 different political systems

Normies can't figure this out.

There's a limit to the bend man can put on his own civilization

it's amazing to m,e

lazy lazy niggers

@Deleted User thinking that the average would make better solutions than the more lucky ones is a terrible idea from the beginning.

Indeed

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