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anybody can say it
And evil everywhere
who lives it?
If you follow Christ, you are a Christian. It is defined in the Bible.
that's appeal from authority, but what does your heart tell you?
If you follow Krishna, you are a Krishna varna.
i don't follow krishna
Labeling who you follow is not the definition of idolatry.
but krishna is an avatar of God
I am just saying in general, my friend. @J_G_
look how many people follow John McCain
That is Idolatry.
just cause he hates trump
double triple reverse idolatry
"they know not what they do"
McCain is a fallible human being.
I agree to that! @J_G_
they are twisted so they see good as bad and bad as good
i dont want that way anymore
i used to be like that
now God has allowed me to see
i have no power to change others or even myself really
Many 'Christians' recognize God but they are taught without comprehension
so therefore i quit trying that too
I need to go back to mah carpentry work
talk soon!
Okay friend, take care!! @J_G_
Whoa carpentry nice
Have a good day~
A little wisdom for the day:
God gives wisdom, knowledge, and joy to those who please him. But if a sinner becomes wealthy, God takes the wealth away and gives it to those who please him. This, too, is meaningless—like chasing the wind.
Ecclesiastes 2:26 NLT
good stuff
the whole reason i went into this is becaus God revealed to me that the "om symbol" and the "allah symbol" are similar in a way, and I was led to the article.
imagine if somebody created a popular religion by turning the cross upside down and then saying it was the only religion allowed on the penalty of death. That's what happened.
"The Muslims claim Jesus as a prophet of Islam but they don’t even follow his most important teachings. Jesus declared himself as the son of God, the Muslims reject this because they believe God cannot have a son. Jesus preached ‘thy shall not kill’. The Muslims have a history of killing (terrorism). Jesus preached ‘love your neighbors’, the Koran considers non-Muslims as unbelievers and thus the Muslims cannot love their neighbors. The fundamental teaching of Christianity is: “God said, let us make man in our image, in our likeness.” (Genesis 1:26). The Muslims do not accept that God has a form and thus reject this. Jesus declared himself as the son of God, and he never mentioned the word ‘Allah’. This word ‘Allah’ is very important for Muslims and without it there is no Islam. Islam never existed before 1400 years and thus Jesus, Moses and others before Muhammad were not the prophets of Islam. The simple truth is that Muhammad is the only prophet of Islam." this article is mama mia oo lala si mommie africa si https://pparihar.com/2014/06/10/vedic-origin-of-islam/
Whoa, crazy stuff
Interesting too since Indians are a mix of arab & asian
I think a decent litmus test for whether you are involved in a religion or a cult is that if it is open for all to come and go freely, and if there are infinite prophets, then it's probably legit. on the other hand, if you're supposed to kill everybody who doesn't believe as you do, and kill people for leaving the religion, treating people as slaves, and there's only one prophet... then that religion may be a satanic death cult.
Ahhhh is the first thing the human voice does. It is the vibration of the vocal cords.
ohhh is the sound that is made as the mouth begins to close
mmmm is the sound when vocalizing with the lips finally closed.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. "
Alpha and Omega
Jesus means literally "son of zeus" and that's fine. People can say his name was Yeshua Hamashiach.
Christ means 'annointed, cherished' and that's fine as well. God made a way for those with ears that hear and eyes that see. But God is infinite in power and glory, and loves when anyone seeks him. God understands those who are sincere in their longing for his presence, regardless of what path they are on to get there. It's we humans who are stubbon and weird, not God. God has infinite patience and infinite love, for ever and ever, for in God's presence, time is not in control. and even as the adversary creates chaos, God stands at the beginning and the end of all the stories. It's only we in our vanity who believe we are changing things.
It's o.k. to venerate the one and only way you get to God.
It
It's just not feasible to control the means of getting there by force. That's communism married to fascism.
state controlled means of production.
Did God refer to an instruction manual when he creates the Universe?
(Does)
so kneel not to Ego, but to the sheer Big Beautiful Wall that represents the learning curve that the Evil need in order to be made Good.
Yes, God looked into the Bible to create the universe. That Arab paganism was influenced by Hindu paganism isn't surprising, and it certainly puts Hinduism in an even worse light if it spawned Islam.
God reveals himself to people. no special religion has a monopoly on the creator of the Universe.
"Go within and find God" -Jesse Lee Peterson
What if you go within and find that God is the Judeochristian God?
what if the Judeochristian God is the same eternal God who pre-existed judaism and christianity?
That's a central claim of Judeochristianity.
But as I stated, the reason other countries understood the Bible before it was given is because it already existed as a tradition going back to Adam and was taught publicly in the academies of Shem and Ever.
Do you believe that the Holy Bible is the only Testament to God?
No~
The original root, yes.
You have many 'derivatives' to it, but it is the main root. However, not all religions convey the same exact message. Someone, somewhere inserted man into it. Example: the Talmud, Quran, Catholic, Hindu, Greek, Shinto, etc.
Verse of the Day:
*He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.*
Isaiah 40:29 KJV
I am having a really hard time finding this book of the Bible in Chinese: 2 Esdras
it's an Apocrypha book so it's not even included in most bibles, but I consider it legit word of God and a lot of others do too
in any case, I need to find a Chinese translation
Do you think the universe is God? Do we exist within God’s mind? Is the universe a simulation?
And if so, how do space and time come into play? Do we simply just observe them from our physical perspective?
Is space / time God?
I think that, to us we could only imagine one universe, but it's possible that in a higher dimension that there are perhaps infinite universes, and all of them reside in a sizeless point in spaceless space.
I definitely believe higher dimensions exist. Michio Kaku uses a koi pond analogy; it’s interesting.
I think all of matter and particles are collectively the same thing. I use a blanket analogy. Everything that will ever be and that is exists within the blanket. The blanket never ends. Lay the blanket flat, on its side: visualize that. Like you’re looking at the side of a counter strike map - now imagine down below it, and above it, an infinite amount of dimensions, occupying the same space and size.
I love this intelligent talk
I crave these 🤤
Yes I feel god is the universe, it’s like being a part of his body. I don’t view the planets as just bodies of rock & such, lifeless. I see them as being alive like everything else, or maybe body parts of god’s
Like plants, just bc they don’t seem alive in the human sense, doesn’t mean they aren’t. You can find lovely vids on YouTube of planets vibrations converted to sounds. Everything that has life has a vibration of some sort
Cosmic energy has frequency. All energy does. All matter does. Planets absorb their energy by vorticular stress between dimensions. Basically, imagine this: the sun is 98% of the mass in our solar system. All planets fall into its gravitational pull. And they of course rotate around it. So as the Earth moves on its axis, it creates a vortex between our dimension, and another. Tesla basically said all matter in our universe absorbs its energy from somewhere else. So the earth absorbs this energy. You see its energy in things in nature, like leylines. The planet comes across like a grid, like a twelve sided die, if you looked at it overhead. But because the energy from the vortex travels through the aether. The aether is what occupies the vacuum of space, and thus the universe. It’s like an ocean. You’re in it right now. Everything is. The universe expands, right? So it will eventually collapse when there’s no more room. So what does it move into? Beyond the universe is an an area devoid of temperature - nothingness. There’s no energy there. So God has not expanded into it. The aether acts as a conduit: gamma radiation, microwaves, radiowaves, and electromagnetic energy travels through it. So the aether is like an ocean of energy that permeates all the dimensions. It occupies the space God has occupied, at this point from our third dimensional perspective.
That’s amazing
I understand it, reading it and visualizing
Different dimensions is another interesting topic
It’s these amazing things and beauty with how the universe is that makes god undeniable for me
But when God has expanded, and the aether cannot move any further, and occupies everything, all dimensions, encompassing all time, it bursts. Like a dam. All the cosmic energy contained within it is let loose. It’s like the entirety of the blanket, encompassing everything that will ever be, folds. The result is that by the energy being let loose, it’s like an immovable wall meeting an unstoppable object. The result is a cosmic reset: God can never not be, so as soon as he isn’t, he is again. God is all of time / space, and the aether. Since God is all of space / time, and all of the blanket, God is a paradox. When the bubble bursts, dam breaks - whatever analogy you could use - the universe resets. Existence resets. The only thing that could cause the Big Bang is a singularity event. But it’s a singularity caused by the end of the previous cycle.
Wow
I don’t like to think about the universe resetting bc it’s kind of scary , because then that would mean life is infinite
I used to think about that as I was a kid and get really scared lol
Life is infinite, because God is infinite.
When the universe resets, it doesn’t really die. But one of two things happen: the first, everything in life is predetermined, so you will live again and every single possible variation of your existence will exist infinitely parallel to you.. Or a butterfly-like effect happens, and the way the particles are initially dispersed from the singularity event will effect how reality unfolds on a quantum mechanical level.. So whatever reality exists - it could be different planets moving into different positions that don’t necessarily exist within our current reality, based on particle dispersal, for example. But even then, an infinite amount of parallel realities to that one will exist regardless.
Basically meaning, even if you don’t exist, you will eventually, but you never really don’t not exist: your energy is apart of the blanket - the whole. Apart of God,
Oh yes I believe that
I believe in reincarnation as well
But I think eventually a persons soul reaches a final ascension & they return back to the flow
So not really part of the reincarnation process anymore
Tl;dr : God is the blanket. The blanket folds, the infused energies let loose cause the Big Bang. The Big Bang is caused by the collapse of the universe. All energy is resonant, meaning God has a frequency too.
Right.
Thoth talks about that in the Emerald Tablet.
He describes it as the ‘Halls of Amenti’ - the goal of life is the realization of the whole, that you’ve existed before, and will exist again, and you can break the reincarnation cycle and maintain consciousness.
That’s wonderful
Do you think the early Christians believed in reincarnation?
I think they did
I find it strange they don’t talk about that now
They go together well, and saying things like being born again seem to be quite literally what is being said with that
Some people in this life don’t get it, so they have to be born again to have a better spiritual understanding of life
Precisely it!
Feel fortunate
That knowledge is a blessing from God
Yay! 💚
That’s how I look at it anyways.
if we are individual souls meant to suffer in hell for eternity or be chilling in heaven for eternity, then where the heck were we before we were born? how far along are we in "eternity"? why would we just appear in the middle of eternity somewhere, live on earth for a blip of time and then burn forever for being born to a single mom in the ghetto? seems unlikely, just think of how many kids have no chance, or the ones who got aborted. are they in heaven? is heaven full of aborted fetuses?
Lol right
I get you; it really doesn’t make sense. The karma system makes a lot of sense, and the ideas of it are also spoken of in the Bible
Karma and reincarnation really go hand in hand, it’s hard to have one without the other really...
I've had multiple lives in just this one lifetime, and karma (works) can follow you, whether they are good or bad.
Indeed, good and bad karma follow us
My Hindu friend is also an astrologer & he told me I’m on my final life
You can also be reborn figuratively in just one life, like you say
Hindu is from Satan
@cgbet Lolz, straight to the point, huh? 😂
Yeah it's what I think.
🙂
Lol
I’m not really into fighting over which religion is number one and true, it defeats the purpose of being a spiritual in the first place
I'm not fighting. Just stating the truth.
The Bible talks about polytheistic religions like Hinduism being demonic.
Christian mysticism accepts reincarnation but Luther said all Christians are saints and called the actual saints wicked for trying to exalt themselves over others and be good when it's useless to do so
Therefore almost nobody in this generation had read the words of the saints, nor do they believe in the miracles they performed that were witnessed by giant crowds
Politics isn't about telling the truth it's about how good you can make a lie sound.
@cgbet is it Godly to use more than one screen name in the same YouTube Live chat in order to say "ban islam" or is that a dirty trick from the Hindus?
I don’t recall it pointing out Hinduism as one of them
The truth would be that the Bible is not the only channel to reach God. That’s part of the reason other religions exist.
@Sar interesting o:
there are contradictory statements in the bible. that's fine. people aren't supposed to worship books. however, there aren't any contradictions between the bible and the Bhagavad Gita that I have noticed. Also, God doesn't talk very much in the Bible as I recall. Also the Gita isn't "the bible" for Hindus, it's just a section from the longest poem ever written called "the Mahabharata" but it is without question, inspired and revealed. It's a miracle the text even exists. There's nothing "of satan" or demonic in it. In fact it describes the difference between righteous and demonic people. Again, no contradiction between Bhagavad Gita and Bible. @cgbet @Sar
here's documented contradictions in the Bible, to prove what I said earlier, although I am not against the Bible. Scriptures are meant to compliment each other and support faith. https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html
Exactly @J_G_
Tell em brother <:redpilled:466843692108349441>
People who think the bible has contradictions have never studied the bible
Proverbs says "do not rebuke a fool", then the next verse says "rebuke a fool". Everywhere there are male nouns with female verb conjugations, misspellings, and other "mistakes". It's not a fairy tale, it's a codex.
If the face value of something is profound to you, it's not from the real creator. I don't doubt an angel could have inspired it, but the angels of this world are truth mixed with falsehood
If your fairy tales help you become moral, good, I've never tried to stop you
If every time the Hindus said the word Lord you thought about Jesus Christ, then you would have nothing to be afraid of.
It is said that the way is narrow, but if you actually make it to the point of faith then you wouldn't be so scared of other perspectives on the same God. The thing is Bible Thumpers are basically just like artificial intelligence, reading a script and following through with commands but robots don't really understand what they're doing. Or why are there doing it. God's children understand because they're made in His image. They can find God in the desert they could find God in the snow and they could find God in deep space.
And furthermore, as far as the historical accuracy versus the quote un quote Fairy Tale goes, there is no such thing as the past or the future. God is in the present.
True, that’s when the ego is clearly involved. If other religions frighten you, that says something about you & your faith
why bother with all that spiritual knowledge when the Deity could have just invented Shoot Em Up video games instead?
or candy crush
whats up with their faces
BG 6.6: For those who have conquered the mind, it is their friend. For those who have failed to do so, the mind works like an enemy.
That made me think of a fortune cookie right there lol.
The Bhagavad Gita is wonderful. I’ll post a picture of my copy when I get home.
If God would write an honest straight forward bible personally, in one go, rather than a curated list of several pamphlets, I would imagine it would be like the Bhagavad Gita. It should satisfy the most religious person as well as the most scientific person.
The Mahābhārata is a series of pamphlets. The Law (Septuagint) was "in one go", and can satisfy the religious and scientific alike.
Everything else is just commentary on the Law
Never heard of the Septuagint
That's cool. It's just weird that people run around believing that God Is monopolized by a certain text rather than God being the inspiration of those cherished scriptures.
where is evil located?
Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go: Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.
Proverbs 22:24-25 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/pro.22.24-25.KJV
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And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.
Ecclesiastes 3:13 KJV
What is your definition of virtue?
a value that has made it's way into your life to the point it you are guided by it, like a code of honor
@noobpocket the root word 'vir' means man in latin.
Heard this from a few people and It concerns me as dumb as it sounds but can only Israeli descent be saved?
"whosoever believeth in him shall not perish"
True, he came first for the Jews, but when they rejected him, he sent his disciples out to invite everyone who would accept.
God the Father is the "certain king" Jesus is the son whom the wedding is for. "Those who were invited" are Abraham's offspring through Jacob who's name was changed to Israel. The servants are the disciples, the highways are the nations outside of Israel, the Gentiles of those nations are the ones that were found and gathered together. The wedding garment is the Blood of the Lamb.
don't thank me, I just pointed to the explanation. Go pray to God and ask him to reveal these things to you. Ask and ye shall receive. Seek and ye shall find.
Yes sir!
If he gave me the gift of the knowledge of scripture, he will give it to anyone. This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
Galatians 5:22-26 KJV
And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’ ” Exodus 3:14
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going[a] through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:58-59
the bible says he said great things, a gold mine of helpful information to be... god like
There is Jesus referring to Himself as "I AM" and He did this several times
the Jews wanted to stone Him
so what
*FOR BLASPHEMY*
when He referred to Himself as "I AM"
because everyone knew exactly what He meant
Jesus said "I AM the Root and the Offspring of David"
Jesus said "You will surely die in your sins, if you do not believe that I AM He"
yeah welp
Further in Isaiah 43:11 God identifies Himself as the SOLE Saviour of Humanity: I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no savior.
do you know of the 3rd temple prophecy?
Then you have the amazin tenses of the prophecy in Zechariah 12:10 "They shall look upon Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him"
“And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. Zechariah 12:10
that doesnt prove anything
its just madness
Attempting to use eschatology to undermine basic Christian doctrine?
You're calling
you are completely illequipped
one of the most awesome and powerful fulfilled prophecies
in the entire bible
"just madness"
I do not think you're being serious, and so I will not waste my time with you
you are biased
i am not
Feel free to DM me if you ever have any sincere questions or comments, and I will be happ to pray for you 😃
i go by facts, you go by emotion and jsut regurgitate teh same useless information that isnt relevant to the question
false idolry
Oh I'm very biased, put a gun in my face and tell me to renounce Jesus, you will see how biased I am 😃
"We love Him because He first Loved us."
extremes
Jesus is the One and Only, the Only One Worthy, if you do not know that Jesus is God with us, as pretty much the entire Bible testifies, you are deceived by the enemy
sorry you wont brow beat me or guilt trip me or extort me with hell for me to beleive in false idols
Very extreme
jesus teachings are the path to god.
you want to try to pretend being a moderate when it comes to worldview is a good thing?
Path to Jesus, follow Me He says
Like 1 Timothy 3:16 says the mystery of godliness is great "He appeared in a body" / "He was manifested in the flesh"
you are dunk, drunk off the fact you found a safety blanket
god you are insane
You come off as very insincere
those quotes dont prove anything
Your safety blanket is moderation and pretending to be faithful while insulting yourself from "ruhligeon"
the debate is, is jesus a false idol and if he is than that means the bible is clearly corrupted.
But it's quaint that you bring up the term safety blanket
as the Gospel teaches, we are all slave to something, for by what a man is overcome, by this is he mastered
anyways good luck, you probably missed the parts where we agreed, but ill say it again we are all gods children, i have that much respect
You're insincere, if you honestly believed this and it was keeping you from God, I'd be happy to spend hours on the topic
no im speaking from the heart
im talking to you
this is a religious server
if you think im trolling, then you dont know what trolling is
theres a term for christians who dont believe that jesus is god but may have been god for moments, theres no proof. all the other juicy stuff i do believe in, i follow the ten commandments.
Nontrinitarianism
Heretic, unbeliever, etc? "I AM He" is pretty clear
"I AM He" *people fall down*
assuming you know what he meant is arrogant
No, as He explained Himself very clearly 😃
im using logic here man, im 30 and learning, but i also took the time in the last 15 years everyday to research what im talking about
Reconcile Isaiah 43:11 and .. oh, 2 Timothy 1:10, 1 Timothy 4:10 John 4:42, Acts 4:12, Titus 2:13, 1 John 4:14 Luke 2:11,
Jimmy
if you want to believe the Bible was corrupted, and you cannot trust it, you will find whatever information is needed to sate your thirst, this is called confirmation bias
I was literally called by name
God is Real Supernatural and Personal, and King Jesus is the express image of the invisible God
*** looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, Titus 2:13
I, even I, am the Lord, And besides Me there is no savior. Isaiah 43:11***
So far @Col. Jack O'Neill SG-1 is the only one giving citations at the least.
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