Basically, someone like Hitler derives his power from the people

He moves those people through deep forces, which aren't totally rational.

@Colonel J (The Sheriff) what the fuck is that caption <:tucker:587843675413807106>

And its his continued ability to appeal to those people that grants him continued authority against an ever rising bureaucracy

Whenever such a leader loses that tie to the people, his power diminishes

Just read that caption as well <:tucker:587843675413807106>

@WWM you're talking about cult figures. I wouldnt call hitler a cult leader though

"cult"

Hitler spoke to the archaic portions of the People, as well as the rational side.

He was a master at this.

He called people to *transcendent action*.

And I identify that as religious

Fundamentally

what differentiates a religion from a cult in your opinion.

just asking

the second one looks like my grandad

Those pictures are pretty humanizing

Religions have a formal method of replacing leadership.

so formal vs informal

@vicmaxim usually not a lot

Religions usually have more worked out dogmas

They are more institutionally robust

Cults don't have a method of replacing leadership. They end with the leader.

Where's the gif of that girl giving Adolf her foot?

Yes

Cults tend to be personality centered more solely

Ok now its comming together

some of you will get the basdf last

@TheUserNameofPeace Was Hitler the one with the vision calling the shots, or was he just a mascot used by other people for their vision?

@Trommm Started as the former, ended as the later

At least more towards the later

I read Mein Kampf, and it seemed like all of the ideas came from him. But then I heard Mein Kampf had multiple authors.

The real assurance of leadership is to have the rhetoric and spirito-religious abilities of Hitler in conjunction with a tight personal hold on some form of hydraulic despotism.

Hess didn't add his own content?

I always heard he wrote it in prison

Hess was his cell mate .

Editors usually change works, Trommm, a bit

Normal

Hitler had a lot of tutors so I wouldnt be suprised a lot of his ideas would sound like someone elses

which is why Mein Kampf reads a little chaotically

We all inherit ideas

And then hopefully work from them to something new

We inherit memes as Dawkins says

we are meme replicators

idk

JF balks a bit at that

In his book

lol

@Markomann you can't be a male in the US without dipping into the Latina juice.

@Trommm half my friends date latinas

Ariel Winter is the only castiza I couldn't resist.

you people stop talking

you go work

There's too many Latinas and they crave white cock, while white women have no pressure to perform. It's genocide.

ty Ban

its saturday dude

nothing to do work for

No, work everyday

Work work work

N

o

Weekends are for NPCs.

if you'r enot working on saturday, and isn't asdf, you need to rethink your lifu

I honest loathe most holidays, weekends etc

That whole notion of dividing up time for pleasures

marko, 4chaners are incels..

fuck off wagie scum

I will never be u

fully

bc i only work part time

Holidays are even worse when they even remove the European aspects of it. So it's just a designated lazy shopping day with a theme.

America is just one massive shopping mall

for literally everything

Halloween? No, Spookytime. Christmas? No, Winter Holidays.

of course, these people are only touching diccs

She lost weight, Ban

By changing her psych meds

Antidepressants cause weight gain in many

Set off hormonal changes

You would not deny her, Marko

whats a hamudi

fake

just fakeness

this isn't a good looking person

yes antidepressants will make you gain weight easy

sexy but not beautiful

easy to get them but you dont want them

antidepressants are for dreamerbulkers confirmed

the extra weight will also make you jolly

id pick cute over sexy any day of the week

sexy is only 1 step from slutty

if ariel winter was a guy

he's be an incel

kinda does look like a femoid version of rodger

Ariel Winter is super rich too

lol

Hollywood bux. Easiest path to super riches around.

I just got mine lol

it's in psychology too

I wish I didnt seem like Im lying right now

That's bad for him

woman dont need to work tho

She probably wants to leave him

Women gaining diplomas in that situation see them as tickets for escape

all women want to leave men

take away the money the status

boom

gone in a second

yep

They are brutal beasts

they dont want to leave men if they have what they want

That's what we aren't taught early enough in gynocentric worlds

That's the only problem

It's the trickery

you give women stability and a good home to raise their kids in and theyre satisfied

If you have a based father he will explain these things to you

And then your entire view of women changes, to your advantage

yeah unfortunately i still dont talk to my dad

if your woman actually cares about being a mom and her kids, shell recognize no other man will love her kids like their father

If you aren't told these things, and all of society pushes against you realizing then, you usually get fucked

youll learn them one way or the other

Well, luckily there's the redpill community

most humans in general dont think

But it's pretty new

women less likely agreed

At most 15 years

That's very recent

And in that early time it was PUA

@fuguer what seperates us from animals then?

I bought an early PUA book that helped me some

Probably

I started getting laid often after it

For sure

nothing separates us from animals

what separates us from the animals is animals are stupid

I am smart

r/iamverysmart

incel cope

I'm not prepared to say that, Fug. I will say that *most* people exist as sophisticated animals, near solely.

If there's any area that separates us from animals, spiritually, it's philosophy.

it ahs become true

So if a person is willing to engage in philosophy, I'll give them more credit.

Ive reached that conclusion too

If when you challenge their presuppositions they shut down and repeatedly refuse to engage, I count them as animals.

Basically

Id give christians more credit too if they viewed their religion more as a philosophy than some magical force

jut more incel cope

yes, but you've changed to that

everyone shuts down when you challenge their presuppositions

as a defense mechanism

@fuguer when they cant rationalize their presuppositions

I am joking btw

i agree i see most people as just sophisticated animals.

@fuguer no

we're not as special as we think we are

Philosopher's don't

Not real ones

They entertain other presuppositions

Other systems

Challenges

etc

Doesn't mean they accept them

But they suspend, bracket, and engage

Yeah but most people aren’t great thinkers

Thereby they can grow unlike most humans

They possess *mind*, in the Aristotelean sense.

A rare faculty amongst the mass.

So, when I'm generous I consider all those to be proto-humans

@WWM can you grow with only a bias forcing you

not the urge to think

what

Can we grow with bias forcing us?
Rather than the positive impetus to think?

yes

not to entertain other thoughts

whatever, I was (mostly) just joking

So, bias being tradition, cultural impositions, etc?

yes

and I say mostly because I believe there is a small amount of cope in there

lol

instinct too

is that a bad thing?

The answer is no.

If that's the *only* thing driving you, no

You will stay in that box

And defend against all comers

But what if it's a really big box tho

But

Actually

because id actually vouch for people having a bias

because it shows they care in a way

that they want to utilize science and not just make more of it

or philosophy

If we think to the early days of the Church, in its confronting Islam, we actually see how the formulations the Church fathers came up with to defend Christian dogma and policy *in the face of Muslim denial of revelation* actually helped lead to the Renaissance.

But

Those Fathers, from a defensive mode for sure, did strive outward towards new thought.

das gud, mang

So you can strive outwards into new thought from a defensive rather than exploratory disposition.

But what if you just innovate your new thought constantly

I know

into something better and better

just be aware of why you're on here

and not other thoughts

I don't quite know what you're asking

Just build on your own bias

and not create new ideas

stay in your box

But, there are other ideas and an, at least mostly, shared reality

Shared problems

Shared feedback

And there's logic

So that's going to lead to intercourse of ideas

And some commonality

Substantial

what if you prohibit them from growing so only yours exist?

would that be a bad thing

if you still grow

and innovate just from your own bias'

and kill everything else

Well, if one idea was to do human sacrifice, suppressing that idea, unless it was necessary for racial survival in extremis, would be pretty certainly good.

So suppression could be good.

In edge cases

But, generally no.

We should have free discourse

Let ideas compete

Right now we are in a situation where the logic, discourse, and levels of correspondence to reality are heavily on the side of the New Right.

Consequently, not being able to compete on the level of ideas, the entrenched Left has silenced these voices.

Because they can't compete

oof
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/10/bomb-attacks-are-now-a-normal-part-of-swedish-life/

In silencing these voices they speed the destruction of the West and Whites.

Human sacrifice is overrated; at least when people expect me to sacrifice myself; let the plebs die in droves while I just enjoy life <:dab:395562678153904128>

ok but what if we were in power now, would you still vouch for the left's opinions. because I wouldnt

In the coming civil war, we will watch from the sidelines.

+ this is all part of God's plan; if you're having a bad life it's all you deserve 👀

if my ideas reigned

id get rid of all others

and im just being honest

@vicmaxim There's a lot of value in some degree of free discourse

only if it makes my ideas better

I would incline to not totally censor the Left

that's what you gotta do when you're pretending to be a grill

but they're wrong and they're crazy

Perhaps God has a plan to turn our species into a space travelling type 5 civilization 👀

Lmao

You have to think from the perspective of the 'mass individual'