Message from @vicmaxim
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i agree i see most people as just sophisticated animals.
@fuguer no
we're not as special as we think we are
Philosopher's don't
Not real ones
They entertain other presuppositions
Other systems
Challenges
etc
Doesn't mean they accept them
But they suspend, bracket, and engage
Yeah but most people aren’t great thinkers
Thereby they can grow unlike most humans
They possess *mind*, in the Aristotelean sense.
A rare faculty amongst the mass.
So, when I'm generous I consider all those to be proto-humans
@WWM can you grow with only a bias forcing you
not the urge to think
what
Can we grow with bias forcing us?
Rather than the positive impetus to think?
not to entertain other thoughts
whatever, I was (mostly) just joking
So, bias being tradition, cultural impositions, etc?
yes
and I say mostly because I believe there is a small amount of cope in there
lol
instinct too
is that a bad thing?
The answer is no.
If that's the *only* thing driving you, no
You will stay in that box
And defend against all comers
But what if it's a really big box tho
But
Actually
because id actually vouch for people having a bias
because it shows they care in a way
that they want to utilize science and not just make more of it
or philosophy
If we think to the early days of the Church, in its confronting Islam, we actually see how the formulations the Church fathers came up with to defend Christian dogma and policy *in the face of Muslim denial of revelation* actually helped lead to the Renaissance.