I want to be a dad so bad

Who's ready for another controversial topic??

It's pretty great Sal

Always ready for controversy

Breastfeeding in public!

Controversy is my middle name

I'm all for it!

You need to find a lady first though

I have younger siblings that I’m 9 years older, so I’m a little familiar

Totally 100% fine with it @Clive

every state has laws making it legal in public places anywhere you are not tresspassing

Baby's gotta eat.

fuck yeah

I'm not against it but I'm not pro-breastfeeding-in-public

@Clive doesn’t bother me. There was a lady who would breastfeed during church services. She just covered everything with a breastfeeding blanket

ironically, it's old white christian women that are hating on public breastfeeding, so says my wife

I see no reason to go against it but I'm not gonna promote it

I don't find it sexual or indecent, even if it's not covered up. It's just not a big deal.

It’s fine as long as she covers tit.

I'm talking about uncovered

Me too. Fine with it.

Covered is obviously 10000% ok lol

Cover it and nobody should have an issue

Yup

disagree

mother is not legally required to cover

I'm not required to wear clothing in SF

I'm still going to

OMG THATS SF

And people still should

No laws requiring clothes

Uncovered genitalia is not the same thing as uncovered breastfeeding. Not at all.

He just said there's no laws requiring it

So it seemed like

breastfeeding is not sexual, don't know why people see it as sexual

That's why he disagreed

Yes and I am ignoring that because I don't think the law is relevant to a discussion of decency

It’s not sexual, but it’s very intimate

boobs are for
1st. feeding babies
2nd. fun

It's not sexual, idk anyone that thinks of it as sexual

Its intimate like @Salacious Swanky Cat said

that's what other older women tell my wife

Different but similar

Maybe they dont have the vocabulary that swanky cat has

And they mean intimate

true

It is, but it's also just eating.

I will say I don’t directly look at it.

That's very polite.

Lol

most guys don't/won't

I bet women feel embarrassed to do it.

men*

/try not to

it's mainly women who have a problem with it, and idk genders of ppl on here

Guys dont seem to mind boobs

I agree

I’d say some of it may be female jealousy

"oy, you want some of dis titty, bitch?"

What is absolutely disgusting is the husband drinking breast milk too.

That is some degenerate nonsense

in the privacy of your own home, idc

Literally competing with your own child

It’s detestable

i mean it is gross but idc if other people do it, just don't bring me into it, the Filthy Frank stance

I mean, I've tasted it. But it's not like I was chugging quarts of the stuff.

Lol.

😐

AHAHAHAHA

Hahahaha

@uncephalized my man

It’s for the baby.

https://tenor.com/view/justice-league-justice-league-movie-aquaman-my-man-alright-gif-9951056

I agree. But she makes plenty.

Don’t women’s boobs get sore from making milk?

over productin

Not anymore.

She's a pro.

and raw from the nipple nomnom

Are they bigger because of it?

Just curious

depends on how big they were to begin

They get biggest around birth.

Ah. Makes sense

pregnancy in general makes boobs bigger but so does ovulation just not as much

Then they flatten out a bit as the baby gets older.

Oh also the most effective treatment for mastitis is hard suction Sal.

vacuum hose

(Blocked lactation duct, causes infection and painful swelling)

I’ve seen a breast pump before

no no no

a vacuum

What.

For some reason we couldn't get the breast pump to work.

Like a home vacuum

yeah dude, it's its clogged it fixes it super fast

It was easiest for us to do, um, manual suction.

ive seen a video

Haha really?

Does that work?

don't know why my wife showed me some other woman's boobs probably because seeing a boob get sucked into a vacuum was hilarious

Amazing

it was on a private mother's facebook page

It would make me seriously uncomfortable if my wife showed me that.

I don’t have a wife yet though

i tlasted like 5 sec

lasted

anyway

Ah. Ok

i think we've sucked this convesation dry

😉

Yeah we've really milked it for all it's worth

Incredible puns, gentlemen

Good work

i love puns

they are punderful

wait

did you just assume my gender with that patriarchal word GENTLEMEN

SORRY

never apologize!

peeps should take and post their political compass test results! I mean if you want to.

I did the political compass test....told me I was correct

care to share?

actually never taken it. I just find the idea of it comical.....I started it once only to have sooooo many questions about the questions that I got no where

I also believe the bottom left square can't exist...

I actually see what you mean there.

there's not a lot of nuance in the questions and there's no "middle ground answer" or "+/- Ø" answer.

My sister lives in Seattle and took it and got -5, -5 in the green square

well I don't understand the bottom left.....I want government to control everything yet?????thats not authoritarian?

From a policy stand point, the bottom left seems oxymornic, but on a personal level it isn't

depends on how you approach the test, I approached it personally, but as far as policy goes I'm more libertarian

It means they want collectivism without a top-down authority, which is practically impossible.

so are we gonna be making bets on who wins next election

My money's on Orange Man atm

We'll see if the economy crashes or we get into a new war in the Middle East before next Nov.

lol

I've never bet on anything before for real, I know some people who did it for last election

honestly not even sure how it works

Could have made a killing betting against Hillary.

Everyone was putting up big odds on her.

yeah one dude I know made 500 bucks

Is InTrade still a thing?

You used to be able to place bets there.

is it technically gambling or am I confused

Although it was illegal in my state otherwise I would have made a good buck betting on Obama in '08

It depends on the state laws

AZ outlawed it and I didn't know about VPNs and whatnot back then.

@uncephalized bear down

gotta love it when govt websites are broken

only on the mobile version lmao

this is hard to figure out

how is just normal betting on stuff like elections classified

it seems awfully authoritarian to make betting illegal

lots of laws made seemingly to protect the people from themselves... I wonder how things would be different if all gambling were completely legal federally

Oh it's totally ludicrous that gambling is illegal especially when you consider that most (all?) states run their own lotteries.

And speculating on stocks and commodities is legal even though that is basically the same thing as betting on Red and Black

I think gambling of any kind is stupid

Yeah

Even horse racing and things

Should be legal though

Went over so much chat... I'll just say, i'm for more baby killing and banning women.

eh idc

@Shadows where tf you been boi

😉

Around.

I've got some videos to watch, will check out the one you linked.

i linked a video?

what was it i forgot already

Abortion.

oh you mean State Forced Pregnancy

Or just Eugenics

@Clive Holy crap, i know you aren't around, but geez why would you link a video from philosophy tube... He is such a simpleton.

@Salacious Swanky Cat Conception is when sperm and egg merge. Implantation is when the fertilized egg reaches the uterus and establishes itself. They are separate events.

@Clive

Ah. Ok.

I thought he was calling the sperm entering the egg implantation

No that's Sperm entering the female body I think

Fertilized egg implants in the uterus

Attaches to the lining and begins forming a placenta

I suppose you could call that conception since it’s when a woman is usually considered pregnant

But in pro-life lingo conception usually equals fertilization

So it depends on which definition you’re going with

That's the problem. No consistency

I've long thought implantation = conception = fertilization

Nope. Fertilization occurs in Fallopian tubes usually. Implantation occurs in the uterus.

But now I think that's not right but I don't have science background or education to know one way or the other

@yuma_8 yumacannyou give a simplistic timeline or order of operations?

I think conception is probably not the most precise term. Fertilization definitely is better.

Okay

You seem smart

Are you asian?

Lol thanks, I’ll do my best

I am indeed

You has the kawaii avatar

Timeline goes like this: woman and man engage in coitus. Sperm enters the woman and travels up her vagina. If the woman is in her fertile period, the cervix will be open and the environment favorable to the sperm, which can live up to 5 days. Sperm travels up into the uterus, then the Fallopian tubes. If the woman ovulates while the sperm is alive, the egg will meet the sperm usually somewhere in the tubes. Fertilization occurs at this point and pro-lifers consider this the beginning of life.

Fertilized egg begins dividing and travels down the Fallopian tubes into the uterus, then attaches to the uterine lining. This is implantation. At this point the woman’s body will begin responding to the implanted zygote and release hormones. Zygote grows into embryo, then fetus.

So roughly you have 5ish days to stop said fertilization if you want to have unprotected sex and be pro life conscious?

No, 5 days is the max that sperm can live inside a woman in ideal conditions

Once sperm is in while woman is fertile, it’s pretty much too late

You can’t stop the sperm at that point. There are millions of them.

Haha idk why but that sentence made me giggle

Unless you take precautions first

I like you

Sorry about Harvard

😜

So where does something like emergency contraceptive fit into this?

Plan b and stuff

I was gonna ask that

Depends on type of contraceptive

I think most pro-lifers say that plan b is abortion

But idk why

Basically, contraception is what happens before conception, as the word implies. Plan B is used after that point.

So there are different types of emergency contraceptives. Some prevent fertilization, some prevent implantation. Those are fundamentally different

Linguistically @wolfman1911 wolis correct

@yuma_8 I imagined your avatar with glasses and a lab coat explaining that lol

One type prevents fertilization by delaying ovulation, presumably until after all the sperm have died

Lol @RoadtoDawn

Another type prevents the already fertilized egg from implanting. This is the type that most pro-lifers are against, because we consider it life at that point.

Along similar lines, rather than vouching for abortions, why don't feminists vouch for forced vasectomies for men. That takes the responsibility off the woman to need to go out of her way and get an abortion.

I’m...pretty sure they want that and I don’t want to give them ideas

Hahahaha

But also abortion makes money

🤑

Vasectomies are one time deals

Well they can reverse themselves

I've heard

It's also not always possible to reverse those 😬

@Clive You still didn't answer my question!

@Shadows what was it again?

Why in the heck did you link a video from philosophy tube.

Oh

Wanted ppl's oponions

That guy has brain damage.

That vid actually wasn't the worse

I thought it was bunk and straw many

Manny

Or at least it made an interesting argument or 2

Feel ya on the straw man

But it's no wonder he be pro choice since he's pro sex work. Write that shit off on your taxes bitches!

You are really going to make me go over it......? @TailsFromTheIntellectualDarkWeb

lol

Not rn but that and one other vid I wanna go over this weekend

But yeah it starts off with some potential and then kinda goes off the deep end

I lean pro having the option (i'd like it to be rare tho) @Clive

Manages to make a point or 2 tho 🎶on the way down 🎶

The nazis were pro choice: jew ze firing squad or jew get ze gas chamber ja

@TailsFromTheIntellectualDarkWeb Everything he does is retarded.. I'm not sure why this would be any different, but i guess i'll watch some of it.

Godwin be praised

The man who killed Hitler was my hero.

I'll say in advance the pro life stuff isnt quite as compelling except for like 1 or 2 parts
But the Ben Shapiro stuff was ...
Intriguing