Message from @C1PHER

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2019-07-03 20:58:54 UTC  

But now I think that's not right but I don't have science background or education to know one way or the other

2019-07-03 20:59:21 UTC  

@yuma_8 yumacannyou give a simplistic timeline or order of operations?

2019-07-03 20:59:24 UTC  

I think conception is probably not the most precise term. Fertilization definitely is better.

2019-07-03 20:59:26 UTC  

Okay

2019-07-03 20:59:32 UTC  

You seem smart

2019-07-03 20:59:41 UTC  

Are you asian?

2019-07-03 20:59:44 UTC  

Lol thanks, I’ll do my best

2019-07-03 20:59:47 UTC  

I am indeed

2019-07-03 20:59:51 UTC  

You has the kawaii avatar

2019-07-03 21:04:56 UTC  

Timeline goes like this: woman and man engage in coitus. Sperm enters the woman and travels up her vagina. If the woman is in her fertile period, the cervix will be open and the environment favorable to the sperm, which can live up to 5 days. Sperm travels up into the uterus, then the Fallopian tubes. If the woman ovulates while the sperm is alive, the egg will meet the sperm usually somewhere in the tubes. Fertilization occurs at this point and pro-lifers consider this the beginning of life.

2019-07-03 21:06:35 UTC  

Fertilized egg begins dividing and travels down the Fallopian tubes into the uterus, then attaches to the uterine lining. This is implantation. At this point the woman’s body will begin responding to the implanted zygote and release hormones. Zygote grows into embryo, then fetus.

2019-07-03 21:07:14 UTC  

So roughly you have 5ish days to stop said fertilization if you want to have unprotected sex and be pro life conscious?

2019-07-03 21:07:54 UTC  

No, 5 days is the max that sperm can live inside a woman in ideal conditions

2019-07-03 21:08:53 UTC  

Once sperm is in while woman is fertile, it’s pretty much too late

2019-07-03 21:09:12 UTC  

You can’t stop the sperm at that point. There are millions of them.

2019-07-03 21:09:15 UTC  

Haha idk why but that sentence made me giggle

2019-07-03 21:09:25 UTC  

Unless you take precautions first

2019-07-03 21:10:14 UTC  

I like you

2019-07-03 21:10:18 UTC  

Sorry about Harvard

2019-07-03 21:10:33 UTC  

😜

2019-07-03 21:10:38 UTC  

So where does something like emergency contraceptive fit into this?

2019-07-03 21:10:46 UTC  

Plan b and stuff

2019-07-03 21:10:51 UTC  

I was gonna ask that

2019-07-03 21:11:00 UTC  

Depends on type of contraceptive

2019-07-03 21:11:22 UTC  

I think most pro-lifers say that plan b is abortion

2019-07-03 21:11:35 UTC  

But idk why

2019-07-03 21:12:46 UTC  

Basically, contraception is what happens before conception, as the word implies. Plan B is used after that point.

2019-07-03 21:13:41 UTC  

So there are different types of emergency contraceptives. Some prevent fertilization, some prevent implantation. Those are fundamentally different

2019-07-03 21:13:54 UTC  

Linguistically @wolfman1911 wolis correct

2019-07-03 21:14:07 UTC  

@yuma_8 I imagined your avatar with glasses and a lab coat explaining that lol

2019-07-03 21:14:12 UTC  

One type prevents fertilization by delaying ovulation, presumably until after all the sperm have died

2019-07-03 21:14:18 UTC  
2019-07-03 21:15:13 UTC  

Another type prevents the already fertilized egg from implanting. This is the type that most pro-lifers are against, because we consider it life at that point.

2019-07-03 21:16:48 UTC  

Along similar lines, rather than vouching for abortions, why don't feminists vouch for forced vasectomies for men. That takes the responsibility off the woman to need to go out of her way and get an abortion.

2019-07-03 21:17:24 UTC  

I’m...pretty sure they want that and I don’t want to give them ideas

2019-07-03 21:17:32 UTC  

Hahahaha

2019-07-03 21:17:56 UTC  

But also abortion makes money

2019-07-03 21:18:04 UTC  

🤑

2019-07-03 21:18:08 UTC  

Vasectomies are one time deals

2019-07-03 21:18:25 UTC  

Well they can reverse themselves

2019-07-03 21:18:30 UTC  

I've heard