aight big oof on my part

i do think though that the fact that

ill oof myself

*oof*

the findings in science contradict the bible

is a major problem for Christianity

It depends, i havent read up on the official theological interpretations of the bible. From what I understand is that the old testament is really the biggest issue, the new testament not so much.

the issue is then is the official (for me catholic) doctrine to interpret it literally, or some other way

I know in the US evangelicals and others like to take it on literally in which case that poses some huge contention.

and they chose to reject the findings of science

unfortunatly

and they have on multiple occasions attempted to push their religious views into schools

I mean IMO religion should be taught as a subject, along with philosophy in the same class. As a means of propagating culture.

For catholics at least there has never really been an issue between science and religion, each simply sit in their own circles and often times priests are esteemed scientists and have been in history.

But this again means that religion is its own subject.

as far as I know in the US they wanted to, instead of makign religion class, to push religion into all other subjects instead

which IMO retards the entire point, its like taking a book, and giving all 100 pages to 1000 people at once, instead of one person at a time. In the end nobody knows what is going on.

religion is not necessary. It should be removed from schools

Schools have no business propagating religion

@Bogatyr Bogumir Catholics flip out when you talk about evolution and the big bang

most, especially the boomers, don't like those concepts

lol as far as I know they are poor catholics.

and I would argue religion is necessary, look at western countries without it. That in itself is enough of a case for keeping religion, even if it is pragmatic and to build society.

no, its time we move on. We don't need God anymore

he has become obsolete

-> looks to the west literally falling apart and being replaced by radical islam
-> k

LMAO yea the muslims are turning western nations into theocracies

Even if this were the case, there are other ways to solve it

I mean they are simply winning on a social level, they will win given time. Atheism is just dying. Its as mauritian struggle put it a failed reproductive strategy.

The biggest issue atheism has as a social order is that its basically a vaccume. its after the the non belief, and thus has no propositions to fill the void that it produces.

basically atheism isnt ready to even propose a social model simply because its busy tearing down the christian one that already exists.

Popping by to make sure Addie is speaking in a polite and formal manner

wait wait hold that thought

I gotta do something real quick

thats correct

it doesnt have anything to fill it

hmmmm

becaues the position does not exist

@Riley religion is inevitable

but that doesnt mean its claims are accurate

Until I see evidence for God, I will assume that he is not existant

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<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question ✝
Theists: What type of evidence would you need to shake your belief in God?
Atheists: What type of evidence would you need to start believing in God?

none

because

You're a lemming, we all know

science gay

and so is logic

I would have to be abducted by interdimensional clockwork aliens that half look like Obama

And even then I could just say the devil is trying to trick me

^

lmao idk

@Iahhel Yeah, it's a bit solipsistic isn't it? Really anything that anyone ever experiences can be reasoned away as "this is a figment of my imagination" or "demons are tricking me"

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question 🔖

- Are Religion and Science at odds or are the 2 compatible? Explain.

Of course they are an I will explain why I think so @Deleted User

they are at odds

or

the latter

I think it's very specific to a lot of different cases

And I don't think it is necessarily a yes or no, I'd say it depends quite a lot on which religion, which doctrine, and which part of science.

First of all, it's a common misconception that religion is necessarily anti-scientific or that it was created agaisnt science. No, religion is the reconnection to forces, powers and laws that exceed the human capability. Anything based on this is a religion. For one it can be their nation, for others it can be science. Yes, science can be a religion. It's treated like that by scientism and Marxism. Futhermore, even religion in the form most people think of is not created against science. No, it is about a certain lifestyle and a certain interpretation of essential for our life things using a certain system. Not everything has to observe the cells. Not everything has to observe the law of Ohm. Just because something does not view the anatomy of a body, does not make it anti-scientific. Neither is science created agaisnt religion which again, is a broad thing and I gave a clear description of it.

So, they are compatible. The whole religion-science dilemma is artificial.

Very well put!

Can be better but thanks :)

@Deleted User there is nothing in the world more anti-science than religion

Religion is based in ignorance and there is nothing more ignorant than saying 'well idk where the Earth and stuff came from, so it must have been a God"

not to mention the repeated attempts made by the religious right to force intelligent design into schools

K

i would need god himself to literally tell me i shouldnt worship him

and even then i would just say

"begone demonic thot"

and then pray to god right there

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@Religion Daily Question ✝
It has been argued that Christianity has been able to have such a positive effect on the growth of Western culture because of it becoming more moderate with time.

Did Christianity help shape the West because of its moderation or in spite of it? Explain why.

Christianity in the Protestant and Catholic sides have absoutley moderated with the times

@Classy this is actually a very important question which should be viewed from many perspectives and historical facts and it's important to first mention Western civilization is the Whole of Europe without Russia. I am a proud Bulgarian and even we are part of the Western culture. What made my people survive the Ottoman power was exactly Christianity and its form wasn't that different than the one in the Second Bulgarian Empire. In fact, as we are part of the Westerner civilization, this means a country of the crew is alive thanks to an honestly not so moderate form. Also, there are still Churches made by us Bulgarians that are very old and they are still part of Europe and the Western civilization. It did shape the culture of our country in times when it wasn't moderate. What about Western Europe? Well, ask the Spanish people. Believing in a religion different than catholicism was punishable until the 30's of the XXth century with death which is definitely not moderate, yet it did shape a lot of who they are and many parts of the Americas. I don't know about Portugal tho.

@Deleted User weren't you Ukrainian?

yes

What is the history of Christianity in your country? @Deleted User

Christianity outlived its usefulness

lmfao addie

what arte u doing here, u aint right leaning

@Deleted User Christianity in Ukraine came when Volodymyr the great baptized the Ruthenian Principality (Київська Русь) Christianity brought Ukrainians together as a people and had its ups and downs, Kyiv was considered the capital of Christianity in the East Slavs up until the late 1500s when the patriarch of Constantinople was bribed by the Tsar of Moscow to make Moscow the capital, which was the beginning of many Orthodox priests in Galicia, Volhynia, Podolia signing the Brest Union with Rome and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, founding the Ruthenian Uniate Church (the predecessor to the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church), during the partitions of Poland, Ukraine was divided between Austria and Russia, Austria upheld the Ruthenian Catholics in its Galicia and built the programs for the rise of the modern Ukrainian-Ruthenian National identity. in Russia, the Tsarist regime did many programs to revert the population to Orthodoxy, after WW1, the rise and fall of the Ukrainian National Republic and the founding of the USSR, the Orthodox Church in Ukraine was used by the Communists to make propaganda, while in Polish-owned Galicia-Volhynia, the UGCC was banned and Greek Catholics were forced into being Roman Catholics, which the locals of Galician Ukraine fought against. in Ukraine now there are three Churches, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, the Russian Orthodox Church and the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, the UOC and UGCC are pro-Ukraine sovereighty, the ROC is pro Russian and all that, and the ROC has schismed with Constantinople over the UOC's new existence.

there is a quick summary, I myself follow the UGCC

Christianity indeed is good for the west

It brings proper moral guidence to the western nations and other Indo-Europeans

whereas previously there was nothing

Such as some form of monotheism

Orthodoxy has only helped Greece

of which my Indo-European side comes from

And will only continue to help Greece thrive

@G a b e גבריאל christianitryt hwlpeed alot in all of Europe, it was the Catholics who vuild institutions for Ukraine and Belarus in the 1500-1700s in the Commonwealth as an example

it was Othodox Knyazs earlier who build cities like Lviv, Halych, Uzhhorod, Chrasky, etc, and build institutes within them

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Indeed

Nahum 2:3

**Nahum 2:3 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<3> The shield of his mighty men is made red, the valiant men are in scarlet: the chariots shall be with flaming torches in the day of his preparation, and the fir trees shall be terribly shaken. ```

Nahum 2:4

**Nahum 2:4 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<4> The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings. ```

The combustion engine prophecied in B.C 713

Nahum 2:4

**Nahum 2:4 - Good News Translation (GNT)**

```Dust


<4> Chariots dash wildly through the streets, rushing back and forth in the city squares. They flash like torches and dart about like lightning. ```

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