well there you have it, cosmic inflation solves the horizon problem

this discussion seems somewhat pointless since its framed in an empiricist way, asking questions that are not within the empiricist frame.

basically non scientific questions are being asked and then the discussion revolves within science trying to answer them.

big oof.

@Bogatyr Bogumir how is the big bang not scientific

it is

soo

whats the problem

thats my point, the discussion is about god etc.

or from what I gether

oh yea it was earlier

when i was talking to that one guy

then it switched to big bang

and it has regressed into science, i had no idea the convo shifted to big bang stuff

yee

aight big oof on my part

i do think though that the fact that

ill oof myself

*oof*

the findings in science contradict the bible

is a major problem for Christianity

It depends, i havent read up on the official theological interpretations of the bible. From what I understand is that the old testament is really the biggest issue, the new testament not so much.

the issue is then is the official (for me catholic) doctrine to interpret it literally, or some other way

I know in the US evangelicals and others like to take it on literally in which case that poses some huge contention.

and they chose to reject the findings of science

unfortunatly

and they have on multiple occasions attempted to push their religious views into schools

I mean IMO religion should be taught as a subject, along with philosophy in the same class. As a means of propagating culture.

For catholics at least there has never really been an issue between science and religion, each simply sit in their own circles and often times priests are esteemed scientists and have been in history.

But this again means that religion is its own subject.

as far as I know in the US they wanted to, instead of makign religion class, to push religion into all other subjects instead

which IMO retards the entire point, its like taking a book, and giving all 100 pages to 1000 people at once, instead of one person at a time. In the end nobody knows what is going on.

religion is not necessary. It should be removed from schools

Schools have no business propagating religion

@Bogatyr Bogumir Catholics flip out when you talk about evolution and the big bang

most, especially the boomers, don't like those concepts

lol as far as I know they are poor catholics.

and I would argue religion is necessary, look at western countries without it. That in itself is enough of a case for keeping religion, even if it is pragmatic and to build society.

no, its time we move on. We don't need God anymore

he has become obsolete

-> looks to the west literally falling apart and being replaced by radical islam
-> k

LMAO yea the muslims are turning western nations into theocracies

Even if this were the case, there are other ways to solve it