Message from @Riley

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2019-07-15 17:22:21 UTC  

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2019-07-15 17:22:59 UTC  

well there you have it, cosmic inflation solves the horizon problem

2019-07-15 20:17:43 UTC  

this discussion seems somewhat pointless since its framed in an empiricist way, asking questions that are not within the empiricist frame.

2019-07-15 20:18:27 UTC  

basically non scientific questions are being asked and then the discussion revolves within science trying to answer them.

2019-07-15 20:18:31 UTC  

big oof.

2019-07-15 20:19:30 UTC  

@Bogatyr Bogumir how is the big bang not scientific

2019-07-15 20:19:36 UTC  

it is

2019-07-15 20:19:40 UTC  

soo

2019-07-15 20:19:41 UTC  

whats the problem

2019-07-15 20:19:44 UTC  

thats my point, the discussion is about god etc.

2019-07-15 20:19:50 UTC  

or from what I gether

2019-07-15 20:19:53 UTC  

oh yea it was earlier

2019-07-15 20:19:59 UTC  

when i was talking to that one guy

2019-07-15 20:20:06 UTC  

then it switched to big bang

2019-07-15 20:20:08 UTC  

and it has regressed into science, i had no idea the convo shifted to big bang stuff

2019-07-15 20:20:15 UTC  

yee

2019-07-15 20:20:16 UTC  

aight big oof on my part

2019-07-15 20:20:23 UTC  

i do think though that the fact that

2019-07-15 20:20:24 UTC  

ill oof myself

2019-07-15 20:20:28 UTC  

*oof*

2019-07-15 20:20:28 UTC  

the findings in science contradict the bible

2019-07-15 20:20:34 UTC  

is a major problem for Christianity

2019-07-15 20:21:37 UTC  

It depends, i havent read up on the official theological interpretations of the bible. From what I understand is that the old testament is really the biggest issue, the new testament not so much.

the issue is then is the official (for me catholic) doctrine to interpret it literally, or some other way

2019-07-15 20:21:57 UTC  

I know in the US evangelicals and others like to take it on literally in which case that poses some huge contention.

2019-07-15 20:22:17 UTC  

and they chose to reject the findings of science

2019-07-15 20:22:24 UTC  

unfortunatly

2019-07-15 20:23:06 UTC  

and they have on multiple occasions attempted to push their religious views into schools

2019-07-15 20:28:37 UTC  

I mean IMO religion should be taught as a subject, along with philosophy in the same class. As a means of propagating culture.

For catholics at least there has never really been an issue between science and religion, each simply sit in their own circles and often times priests are esteemed scientists and have been in history.

2019-07-15 20:29:25 UTC  

But this again means that religion is its own subject.

2019-07-15 20:29:55 UTC  

as far as I know in the US they wanted to, instead of makign religion class, to push religion into all other subjects instead

2019-07-15 20:30:38 UTC  

which IMO retards the entire point, its like taking a book, and giving all 100 pages to 1000 people at once, instead of one person at a time. In the end nobody knows what is going on.

2019-07-15 20:49:35 UTC  

religion is not necessary. It should be removed from schools

2019-07-15 20:49:55 UTC  

Schools have no business propagating religion

2019-07-15 20:50:15 UTC  

@Bogatyr Bogumir Catholics flip out when you talk about evolution and the big bang

2019-07-15 20:50:26 UTC  

most, especially the boomers, don't like those concepts

2019-07-15 21:00:46 UTC  

lol as far as I know they are poor catholics.

and I would argue religion is necessary, look at western countries without it. That in itself is enough of a case for keeping religion, even if it is pragmatic and to build society.

2019-07-15 21:01:29 UTC  

no, its time we move on. We don't need God anymore

2019-07-15 21:01:46 UTC  

he has become obsolete

2019-07-15 21:02:23 UTC  

-> looks to the west literally falling apart and being replaced by radical islam
-> k

2019-07-15 21:03:30 UTC  

LMAO yea the muslims are turning western nations into theocracies

2019-07-15 21:04:23 UTC  

Even if this were the case, there are other ways to solve it