your values aren't taken seriously by the general public anymore

well they are, but sure

Most churches dont support the values of christendom

I still agree with a lot of christian values against degeneracy btw

Have seen what happens when the Pope visits a place ?

@ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ Because the public doesn't have any values.

@ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ Are you hellenistic?

like at the same time it's a shame when the general public abandons decency

the clown world we live in I guess

yes

The faithful may be blind to the current state of the Church, but they are loyal to the faith

but hey

You know that in the Hellene world degeneracy was widely accepted?

you worship whatever you want

and I worship whaterver I want

(Like the holy rpg)

things like sodomy are condemned even by many pagans and all the pagans I know irl despise faggots and consider them abominations/against human nature

Holy rpg meme is autistic and not funny

as I stated before I am a secularist so...

you don't have to be Christian to oppose degeneracy lmao

I hate secularism

just common sense

@ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ I am aware

That is why there is so much degeneracy

I didnt call you a degenerate

@Romulus Uzurpatorul piss off with that overused meme please

it wasn't even publicly accepted

@Rockhead The Church has shown that it cant be trusted with political power

I already debunked this here many times

Ngl half of the niggas here make me question my faith

because they're complete autists

>you don't have to be Christian to oppose degeneracy lmao
You don't have to be a fascist to hate jews.

well yeah

lmao

Because I still believe in that the Church can be saved

common sense

hey man dont be giving off to me just because there are many paintings of faggots in ancient greece

I still hope that someday we can have a true Church

>many

yes

many

Like, a majority of the "OMG MONARCHY WAS CHOSEN BY GOD" or "OMG CHURCH MUST RUN GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS" niggers

>literally only 30 pottery out of tens of thousands discovered

are dumb

are you retarded lmao

@Rockhead I dont think they were counting for the Church to be taken over by heretic pedophiles

only a very few even depict homosexuality

^ @ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ

yet anything sexual alone

i agree wiff ya mate

they still do

Once the church split from constantinople

@ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ But this sense is can be sensed by an idiot too. If sb is better than them, he makes sg with it.

it stopped being legitimate

modern fags see ancient greek art with naked men and women and always perceive it in a sick perverted way/completely misunderstand what they mean

According to many Greek historical texts, to name the most famous one, the Ilias, the Gods aren't a mere metaphor for the natural phenomena but literal beings who did live in the top of mount Olympus and are actually very well known because they personally interact with mortals. Ex. Diogenes hits Ares with its spear. Achilles gets called out by Athena when he's about to rage and kill Agamemnon. Paris hands the golden apple to Aphrodite. @ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ

and why discard your christian ancestors

like justinian the great

bt did you know that even pedestry wasn't even sexual

statues wiff nekkid men are meant to show beautiful bodies

just to enjoy aesthetics

It's just a homie, bro

no literally

I mean, I agree for the most part

there was no sexual contact

a lot of the "OMG ANCIENT GREECE WAS LIKE...SUPER GAY, GUYS...." stuff makes me

angry

you people are still on about this

wtf

it wasnt super gay

@Rockhead Dont follow the Church blindly, and dont use Bible quotes as unquestionable fact, the bible has things like translation errors ect

but it wasnt as hated as christian greece

Naked art is not sexual most of the time, it represents the beauty of the human body and innocence usually

>being a mindless drone is the only way to not be a heretic

ok retard

if you want to follow a corrupt Church go ahead

in the meantime I will keep following the Father

I dont follow a corrupt church but also being secularist

is just like saying

you are a half baked sceptic

The bible is only truly accurate in its mother tongue

koine greek

@Romulus Uzurpatorul you talking to me?

~~if one of you niggers claims it was originally written in latin, I'm gonna eat your toenails~~

first of all I'm not a latin cathcuck and second idc about romans, I'm Greek

@Rockhead What about the multiple translations errors found in it

I follow my original ancestors that founded our civilisation and the very roots of our nation and race

@ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ not to you

ah ok

original ancestors :)

Yea, because they're imperfect variants of the bible

@Romulus Uzurpatorul I want the faith to be apart of people's lives but seperating the Church from the state is a great to way to stop corruption from taking over

what makes an ancestor original

the original language version is the truly untouched

In the end the Faith comes directly from God above anything else

also the artwork is extremely misunderstood by modern scholars and historians, nudity was extremely normal in ancient greek society but when they show ancient greek artwork and pottery with naked men or women together they assume it's sexual

The Church should be the state

lol no

that'll end with a corrupt as fuck church

fucking theocratic nigga here

I believe in theocracy so

the church does not deserve power because it is an accomplice to everything shit today

According to many Greek historical texts, to name the most famous one, the Ilias, the Gods aren't a mere metaphor for the natural phenomena but literal beings who did live in the top of mount Olympus and are actually very well known because they personally interact with mortals. Ex. Diogenes hits Ares with its spear. Achilles gets called out by Athena when he's about to rage and kill Agamemnon. Paris hands the golden apple to Aphrodite. @ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ

About what you said earlyier

The church grows corrupt and wicked when exposed to worldly power

Monarchic Theocracy

E W

"Give Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and God what belongs to God"

enough said

Monarchy is cuck shit

I dont care man

Yea cool

ew monarchy

imagine being ruled by an inbred retard

I follow the principles of Codreanu

Yeah, who shot him again?

He was a monarchist

Yeah, who shot him again?

Carol

Codreanu said a lot of good things, but I don't agree with his monarchism

Liberalism is what doesn't work

secularism does

Long live Fascist Republicanism, and long live National Syndicalism !

daily reminder that the ancients were nowhere near as perverted as modern people corrupted by jewish filth and media

Blind trust in divinely ordained monarchy is how you get Tsar Nicholas'd

^

The falangists had the right idea with monarchy

Well done @Rockhead, you just advanced to level 2!

I believe that a strong man dictator should establish a monarchy

Absolutley all the blue-blooded aristocrat pedophile dynstaies that exist today are fit only for the firing line, lmao @ u if you think the hapsburgs or romanovs are genuinely the heroes to lead us to a new dawn

I dont care about old jewish aristocrats

People who deserve the throne get it

The Fascist State is the ultimate representative of the people, and King therefore is a usurper of national and popular power

But the fascist state usually lasts as long as its ruler does

and that is my problem

you need to preserve fascism

no power struggles

Pedestral relationships in ancient greece mostly consisted of a form of unconditional "brotherly" love that consisted of adult males taking the younger boys and teaching them skills, a trade and several other important life skills, in order to raise them as ideal men in ancient greek society

as happened with the iron guard

only who is chosen

Well we have ww2 to thank for that, and how did Fascism fall in Italy again? Oh yeah the King overthrew the Duce

to save his corrupt throne

do what sparta did and have 2 kings

Man I told you

No aristocrats

<:hitlerpepe:543956279056400396>

Let me correct you @Romulus Uzurpatorul

Only the man who deserves the throne

Aristocracy of spirit

every man an aristocrat

every man a king

@IliasSpook same shit for ancient rome

cringe as shit when libtards use these to push progressive agendas

Yea

Like I dont want some dumbass that gets money for being related to a long dead byzantine emperor come up to me and lead my country

omg guise muh open and tolerant ancientz

That is ridiculous

Well done @Romulus Uzurpatorul, you just advanced to level 5!

Pretty sure most romans actively hated the etruscans for being sexual degenerates

yet we ignore that and just call them gay

By that logic what is the point of having a King

Look

funny how even then they had peasant lynch mobs against faggots and other forms of taboo in those societoes

You establish yourself

As a dictator

And then

To preserve the system

You hand it over to your son

and it was mostly practiced by elites even in cases where it did happen

Wich would have been indoctrinated for the whole of his life

and what makes his children proper successors, leadership should be given to the most capable

the ancient greeks and various others were well aware it was disgusting and un-natural

And not given the benefits of being the child of an king

You can indoctrinate someone his whole life and he can still become and incompetent king

Because you teach them

Since they are little

You shape them into kings

made my point on this again I think

Teaching does nothing if their leadership skills are garbage

nothing else needs to be said

bruh

not every man can be a king

you teach them leadership skills

@ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ did you read the thing I posted?

if they dont prove that they can lead

but daily reminder this existed in ancient mesopotamia, assyria, china and etc yet fags always soerg out about muh ancient greece

which I find annoying

you get your other childd

@anthr0pos yeah I did

the answers are very simple

everything has a solution

Damn I'm getting into reading a lot of shit about a few ideologies (like Falangism)
Aside from the kinda cucked race stuff

it's cool

they were probably real figures at the time but I mean nowadays they are more of a spiritual form

at one time they probably where

like how jesus was real but still followed spirituality today

after his death

You abandon everything related to the old royal families

Why would you find it annoying? Ancient Greece is the greatest of all the civilizations you mentioned, no wonder it creates the most doubts

You need a pure one

they were kings and nobles

most likely

the original 12 Olympians

The Gods?

If their grandfather was a peasant and a soldier

but their origin is hard to trace

yes

that makes him eligible of the throne

a man who truly understands his peoples wants and needs

I find it annoying when modernist progressive faggots try to skew our history I meant

not that alone

history is a unsolvable riddle

we have everything in front of us about it

I don't think nobles and kings are capable of not being killed and teleporting, trasforming human beings' physical form other than their own and more @ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ

but it will never be solved

Why not simply have the State pick a new leader

someone who has worked his way up the tanks

because the state can be corrupt

like original leader did

not if it is fanatical in nature

the state is always corrupt

the people

need to chose

The Fascist state isnt

I mean jesus was a real person yet christians also believe in mythical shit like he caused miracles or whatever

and what makes the King not corrupt

so in a way it could work the same way for us

yes

because he must be of simple backround

nothing state related

he must be pure man

a state choses with bias more than the folk

and the king has to fear the people

because if he diverts the people will revolt

as he fears god he fears the people of his nation

and for me that is enough to remove corruption

Look at Victor Emanuel

look at the Marie Antoinette

look at the Habsburgs

they are of noble backrounds

i said multiple times

that i dont want

any of that

You will be creating a new nobility

yes

because it pays off

to not have jews

on your throne

that spend all their money

on useless shit and ignore the people