Holy shit

What mental gymnastics

When you have the whole context in front of you, how do you come to that conclusion

The EU is proof that you can always vote for tyranny, but you have shoot your way out of it.

Seriously, as an American I ask, when will you guys do what we did in 1776?

"HoL makes things less democratic, which doesn't mean it's meant to make things less democratic"
Bullshit, it's *meant* to make things less democratic, this is indisputable, because it's inherently less democratic and they have a conscious choice of elimininating it and installing something in place that increases democracy. They make a *conscious choice,* these politicians are not *stupid,* and they know exactly what they're doing.

This is a classic example of sophism

Politicians do the exact same thing

Just throw sand in people's eyes until they start bleeding

buy buy buy buy buy https://www.cityam.com/1271556-2/

No.

😛

Now what?

is it time for the patriots to go onto the streets

At some point, you may have too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/dknmwu/lying_is_the_default_setting_as_brexit_corruption/

Nice article on the state of our media

Didn’t quite realise how dumb it was that there was almost no reporting on the actual detail of the deal

Just on its chances of passing or not

Suspicious. To be fair, if they did tell the details, nobody would want it. Again <:smugon:512048583806025739>

https://infacts.org/how-can-mps-possibly-trust-this-dishonest-pm/

More lies that aren’t being reported heavily enough

Not even the guardian is picking this shit up

Our media is such a mess

what time is the deal vote today?

after all the qestions in the agenda and after the speaker makes a statment

https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/d0537ce3-6000-4751-b120-360a2cf3da88

it really does depend on how long they talk about those 24 questions, well some questions may get skipped

after all the questions there is
"Speaker's Statement: The Speaker plans to make a statement on proceedings on the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 Motion immediately after Defence Questions"
and
"Motion: Section 13(1)(b) of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018"

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2018/16/section/13/enacted#section-13-1-b

so no time then :/

lol no

they start at 2:30pm so my best guess is this evening

somewhere between mid and late evening

ill post when its happening and @ you if you like

There probably won’t be an election until they somehow replace Boris

?

soemhow?

they have control of the house, one no confidence vote and hes gone

and he offerd them an election twice already

the only way theyll allow an election is if they have a long extension in the bag or if they repeal article 50

ie, stop brexit

but parliament cant hold future parliaments anyway.... so thats pointless...

a GE tory flood... theyll just vote to repeal whatever extension and accept the deal

the remainers wont pass up the control they have over the house, control that they will likely lose if the question on their staying is put to the electorate. And they sure as can be wont be letting an election happen until after they replace bercow. Gotta get another remainer in the speakers chair before they lose their seats.

He is retiring before an election anyway

They've already got that

So his replacement will be voted on by the current crop of cunts.

yes

pretty sure i said that

Either way

They will never let this go to an election as at this time they know they will lose if they did, Corbyn is very nervous that the lib dems will steal labour seats. Nah they are playing the long game keep bojo trapped and seemingly weak, extension after extension till the next election, then play the weak tories shakled to eu, we will give another referendum etc. They have the mass media on side so that narative will be easy to push for them...

They have no choice but to have him replaced before an election

Basically the last part of your statement was badly worded

As it implied there was the possibility for a GE before he retired and was replaced

yea its funny how recently the snp and labour have been taking shots at the lib dems, they are getting scared

There is not

Ive seen a llllooot of my old friends from up north, long time labourites are now defending boris and even though they are remainers theyre now using hashtag GetBrexitDone

the bbc interviewed my aunty up north 😛

Same @wacka only the extremely dogmatic ones are still holding on to their hopes to remain.

yea even if an exit does not happen on the 31st the remainers are boned except in hotspots like london

Would be interesting if people voted on the lines of the ref

For a pro and anti brexit party

But they wont

Since then over 60% of parl would have been in leaver parties.

it would be tories or lib dem

In my area you could pin a labour rossette to a dead rat and they flock in droves to vote for it.

labour ran on a manifesto to leave

and has flip flopped

An election will be interesting

But I highly doubt they will let one hapoen

Turkies don't vote for Christmas

now im hungry

If we have an extension I fully expect parl to refuse one.

Again

I would fully expect them to ride it out until the end of the term

They couldn't care less what they are doing to the country

So long as their pockets are lined

my image of the current parliament is that of desperate people throwing thier bodies and careers on the tracks of a moving train in the hope that one of their bones or skulls will shift it off the tracks

hah.. noticed on the bbc the comments on the new deal vote story are all "vote down the deal" .. and if I try to vote down any of the rubbish... suddenly "We're having some problems rating this comment at the moment"

Yeah, I stopped using BBC when it started doing buzzfeed esq stories. You know things are bad when you use Sickipedia for your news XD. (Seriously though I use those websites with left+right news to compare them now...

All sides is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9B3HV11nDQ

full committe meeting https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/521b3878-bef8-4a5e-93b5-9649e96acbf1

EUs not giving us an extension until they see what parliament does... parliament cant do anything until the EU makes a decision... what do?

I have been out all day, Is there any important news about Brexit today?

@wacka What do? Do Brexit ofc
bwahahaha j/k brexit will never happen

10 days until the 31st

How do remain have mass media on side?

That’s such a dumb victim complex thing to say

Our most popular papers

The daily mail and sun

Are both pro leave

Even the BBC is more pro leave than remain

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1186282653202501633

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1186263787109785602

Imagine if Remainers actually got their second referendum through and it was a tie

I got my old vhs player workin

i found some vhs porn 😛 ... but I must have got these in like ... '97-ish... and the internet came around.. So ive never actually watched them 😛

for some reason this tape has graham norton on it... gesus he looks like a kid..