If you could raise a child who could be your best friend into your old age, make more money than you ever could, and do more good than you ever could, would you?

And not to mention all the good they and their ancestors would do for the economy

Yeah I understand that concern.

and my wife has a pathological fear of pregnancy

First legitimate concern I've heard

Well someone told her some BS I guess

no

pathological fears arent rational

Why does it matter? It's a couple's individual choice if they decide they don't want to have children, it's not hurting anyone else

That fear goes against her biology which is why I believe someone gave it to her

because Wendie people could have a better life and create beings that have a better life and they refuse it for (usually) stupid reasons

in our society as a whole

I think having children is a duty of mine as a responsible person

Having them raising them and having them do more good than I have

not to mention it will be meaningful and fulfilling

And that's cool, but if other people don't think so and they have the ability to live a full life without children, why are they selfish? It's their choice

raising a child wont help me destroy humanity

Did I condemn anyone as selfish Wendie?

I didn't

I'm trying to argue people could have it better by having children

And have a more meaningful life

that's fair, but it's not what everyone thinks

its meaningful to you did you consider that not everyone has the same values?

and I'm positing people are almost always wrong when they think that

my values exist for good reason, I didn't pull them out of my ass, so of course I believe they are widely applicable

as do you

I cite the parents that abuse physicaly and monetarily

Ok, so you will one day wake up and become an abuser?

your parenting is not throwing the dice

thats anecdotel

it's not, everyone is a certain way. and if someone is super messed up they shouldn't have kids, of course, until they fix their super-messed-up-ness

but anyone who is reasonably stable, at the very least I think not having kids is a big risk

you're missing out on something huge

what? sleep deprivation?

Having a new best friend, having someone to carry "you" on while you're gone, not being old and lonely and helpless, having someone to do better than you ever did at .. everything

Also, I think the sleep deprivation doesn't even last a year if you put your baby on a proper schedule

Unless your baby is exceptionally sick or in pain

For some reason

Maybe even way less

thats a deal breaker for me

(not my area of expertise)

Everything good in life requires short term sacrifice.

3-12 months (wide range because I don't know) of some sleep problems is a dealbreaker?

but the end result isnt even that good

isn't it?

that's your choice.

brb gotta take rice off

I might consider adopting like a 10 year old

The ability to say "I bought you, I can take you back" would be the best deterant for bad behavior

...or you could teach a child to do the proper behavior because they understand it's the most beneficial thing and they desire it 🤦

by the age of 10 if they don't understand that on some level you're gonna be in big trouble during the teenage years

that strategy is just going to make them lie to you to please you

true

isnt that what being an adult is?

threatening to take a child back and basically saying "i own you" is an unhealthy way to raise a child

it should be about love, support, and help

not controlling

illl remind you both that this isnt <#452955229227319306>

lol

I still argue with them as if they're <#452955229227319306>

~~not very well experienced with this server~~

and btw wendie

I know I vetted you

you just expressed the role of the woman in mothering 100% perfectly

I'd say that's the role of a good parent

yes

99% of parents werent good

but the mother naturally leans on the side of safety and support and man naturally leans on the side of danger and hard reality

and the two together can make a well rounded child

We must teach the child the dangers of the jews

exactly

lol

lol

man tells the child to watch out for the shekels

mother says to make friends with the jews

together the child can be a cautious friend and survive

http://i.imgur.com/DU7c9SI.png

what does a jewish mother and father do then

teach their child to take over the world wendie

naturally

oh yes duh

mother says to do it by making friends

father says to do it through domination

healthy jew child can do both

😮

Joking aside my goal is still world domination

a child would get in the way for now

My parents never did that.

All I learned from them is how to read hebrew and hook up jumper cables.

Morning

mornin

what's up

Just finished my coffee. Probably going to get gas incase of an earthquake.

wut

You never know, Wendie.

oo ominous

My family has gallons of water saved in the garage incase of anything. We always have at least half a tank of gas in our cars for the case of an earthquake.

oh i read that first sentence wrong

where do you live where earthquakes are that much of a concern

might as well make an underground shelter, you never know when a meteor will fall