like it was nothing

did you just assume the 5-10 years while they grow up are "gone"?

You aren't living your life

You're trapped in a cage

raising kids and miserable

@Doctor Anon what’s up, doc?

you are

Not much

Focusing on a project so not really active on here sorry

You are if you suck at raising kids. Some of the happiest people I know are parents of young children.

Okay, I just came back to the server to call you an asshole @Doctor Anon glad I finally got to do it

some of the most miserable people I know are

And you can get tons of work done while you do it if you follow a traditional parenting model.

Well, they suck at it, hah.

not to mention my CP could get genetically passed down

If you could raise a child who could be your best friend into your old age, make more money than you ever could, and do more good than you ever could, would you?

And not to mention all the good they and their ancestors would do for the economy

Yeah I understand that concern.

and my wife has a pathological fear of pregnancy

First legitimate concern I've heard

Well someone told her some BS I guess

no

pathological fears arent rational

Why does it matter? It's a couple's individual choice if they decide they don't want to have children, it's not hurting anyone else

That fear goes against her biology which is why I believe someone gave it to her

because Wendie people could have a better life and create beings that have a better life and they refuse it for (usually) stupid reasons

in our society as a whole

I think having children is a duty of mine as a responsible person

Having them raising them and having them do more good than I have

not to mention it will be meaningful and fulfilling

And that's cool, but if other people don't think so and they have the ability to live a full life without children, why are they selfish? It's their choice

raising a child wont help me destroy humanity

Did I condemn anyone as selfish Wendie?

I didn't

I'm trying to argue people could have it better by having children

And have a more meaningful life

that's fair, but it's not what everyone thinks

its meaningful to you did you consider that not everyone has the same values?

and I'm positing people are almost always wrong when they think that

my values exist for good reason, I didn't pull them out of my ass, so of course I believe they are widely applicable

as do you