Message from @Logicpoints
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Did I condemn anyone as selfish Wendie?
I didn't
I'm trying to argue people could have it better by having children
And have a more meaningful life
that's fair, but it's not what everyone thinks
its meaningful to you did you consider that not everyone has the same values?
and I'm positing people are almost always wrong when they think that
my values exist for good reason, I didn't pull them out of my ass, so of course I believe they are widely applicable
as do you
I cite the parents that abuse physicaly and monetarily
Ok, so you will one day wake up and become an abuser?
your parenting is not throwing the dice
thats anecdotel
it's not, everyone is a certain way. and if someone is super messed up they shouldn't have kids, of course, until they fix their super-messed-up-ness
but anyone who is reasonably stable, at the very least I think not having kids is a big risk
you're missing out on something huge
what? sleep deprivation?
Having a new best friend, having someone to carry "you" on while you're gone, not being old and lonely and helpless, having someone to do better than you ever did at .. everything
Also, I think the sleep deprivation doesn't even last a year if you put your baby on a proper schedule
Unless your baby is exceptionally sick or in pain
Maybe even way less
thats a deal breaker for me
(not my area of expertise)
Everything good in life requires short term sacrifice.
3-12 months (wide range because I don't know) of some sleep problems is a dealbreaker?
but the end result isnt even that good
isn't it?
that's your choice.
brb gotta take rice off
I might consider adopting like a 10 year old
The ability to say "I bought you, I can take you back" would be the best deterant for bad behavior
...or you could teach a child to do the proper behavior because they understand it's the most beneficial thing and they desire it 🤦
by the age of 10 if they don't understand that on some level you're gonna be in big trouble during the teenage years
that strategy is just going to make them lie to you to please you
true
isnt that what being an adult is?
threatening to take a child back and basically saying "i own you" is an unhealthy way to raise a child
it should be about love, support, and help
not controlling
illl remind you both that this isnt <#452955229227319306>