they all do

Me I didn't had one, He had one. He is kind of a wealthy American kid, went to a private school went to business school. I already spent time with his dad and even if he's physically there, I would say he was a bad role model, looking at a lot of other women than his lovely wife, poor standards and values, screams he's conservative but has the attitude of a crazy liberal,...

but they buy into this cult

what if these guys stick with it...actually have kids

It's crazy, TRP is completely toxic to society, the funny part is that they claim to be conservative while fucking up society

TRP is turning into male version of feminism

But even if you're in a cult, I don't get how you can lack humanity to this point

oxymoron

Forgiving someone and being in a relationship with them are two different things. You can do them together you can also do them separately.

It's reactionary to crazy feminists

One justifies the existence of the other

It's reactionary to being hurt in some way.

yin and yang xD

'every force has an equal and opposite force'

There's very few women who speak up about crazy feminists or stupid Red Pill , and says that both are toxic, so if I can be of any kind of help to change something, let me know

btw I can't believe they managed to have such an enormous group of Women of the Red Pill, that's honestly beyond ridiculous

There are just as many damaged women out there as there are men.

If you read their posts they don't actually advocate the hardcore aspects of trp

They all think they can change the guy.

Which ironically is a red pill concept.

Or they think that crazy b******* is somehow something that they want

I've had a weird phase after leaving TRP

Girls fall for the asshole and think they can change him. Everyone sees it. You could argue Maria is doing the same thing.

There she is in tears, opening up her rawest inner secret and he ignores it and spreads shit. She ends up on discord for what? To change him?

I don't know the relationship, I don't know much. I'm just a sad bastard nerd who doesn't know love. But as an outsider that is what I see.

@Donut Steel Tendies Same bro

my head is all over the place xD

Uni stress never helps

best way to call it would be "Fuck the world, I'll just live alone"

Hahahaha you made me laugh tubby thanks

right now I'm transitioning from this to "maybe I will let someone into my cold dead heart if they bring cookies"

@Maria Matthew Hmm, well was the base that was the problem or just some flaws around it?

I guess the base

I think people can change, it just requires a lot of work and commitment on their part

Otherwise what we're doing here in this group is pointless 😃

Like I said previously, there was love but he did a lot of BS that's pretty though to forgive

@Maria Matthew no worries. You're dealing with some weird ass shit for a 20 year old xD

@Maria Matthew What was the base exactly? Did you have common values, interests and dreams together that were separate from the red pill

Hahaha I was actually 18 when I met him

Yes of course

We had the same goals, interests, and I thought we had the same values but if he acted like that, I guess not

believe it or not but I probably have even more boundaries when it comes to physical contact than you do @Maria Matthew so it's not really a male/female thing

Has he already denounced the red pill @Maria Matthew ?

Yes he did

If he has denounced it, committed to change, and the same foundational values are still there then I don't see anything wrong. Totally understand how it can be tough being with someone who has to go through a lot of change and self work

@Donut Steel Tendies It's reassuring to hear

The foundational values are not the same since he acted like he did

He may have broke the values in the past, but does he still break them in the present?

No but that's what @-stupidface- talked about, constructing on moving sands

I've seen some TRPers really change for the better, that's all I'm saying.

You'll have to determine if the moving sands are truly moving

No one leaves red pill insecurities though

shit will be eating at his mind

If they're foundational, or if he's just becoming a better person and screwed up in the past

@tubby wdym ?

@tubby I think it's possible. After all, that's what we're all here for. I've seen people change

I was red pill. Not 100% has washed away

You don't just simply swallow the pill

Which beliefs of TRP do you still carry in you ?

Mine is 95% flushed to be honest

I was TRP has well. You definitely keep some aspects of it. You have trust problems with women and you're skeptical. But do you think it still continues beyond the inner workings?

So I can't entirely relate

yeah skeptical is a good way of putting it.

then again, I probably started earlier

Oh, I definitely have trust problems with women

that's why I'm not in a relationship lol

Haha is it because of bad past experiences or just coming from TRP ?

Both

Yeah, I think we all do after TRP. It's such conditioning that you're skeptical of everyone except for one or two women you're really close to

you don't join the red pill if you have good mental; health

All my friends were on it when I was back in high school. It's become very normalized unfortunately

So terrible to see such evil spread so quick

You know what I'm thinking now? the red pill would say 'look at all these white knight beta chodes flocking to help out/be an emotional tampon with a girl like emotional tampons xD Red pill always nags away

Mine is only from past experiences

TRP played no part in that

true @tubby that voice definitely comes back from time to time

Are we white knighting?

@Maria Matthew Are we white knighting? Are we now your emotional tampon?

I'm noticing that I'm recovering from TRP a little quicker than the average person

Good to hear man

I hope I can help others recover too

I've bridged the gap to normalhood with oldschool PUA

Hahahahahahahahhahaha

day game

I've bridged the gap by going outcast for a while

which exaggerated my depression but also gave me valuable perspective

No guys you are not my emotional tampon, I don't feel hurt anymore, I just want to find a way to help too ! 😃

That's great

Cool. See. The red pill shit is always there.

I think if we are going to do this, we need to encourage healthy personal development within the group

Does anyone have a working mic?

How long have you guys been involved with TRP ?

Yup. Something of a detox center haha

1 year

About 3 years

wow

I guarantee we all have the same story

Started early 2016-ish

ended mid last year

How did you all realised it was so evil ?

on detox since jan

lonely, shy, depressed, virgins/had rough breakups, no success with girls