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2018-03-02 20:19:57 UTC

Did he give any reasons for why Rick might lose?

2018-03-02 20:21:34 UTC

The suppressed turnout from the redistricting combined with the fact that it's low turnout overall and there is a small percentage of Dems that are highly motivated. That is all it takes in these special elections. If Lamb wins though he WILL lose in November

2018-03-02 20:30:43 UTC

Lamb isnt a bad guy tho compared to other Dems

2018-03-02 20:31:01 UTC

this is true,

2018-03-02 20:31:13 UTC

the way PA is redrawn, Lamb would lose in Nov

2018-03-02 20:31:21 UTC

_if_ he wins this month

2018-03-02 20:32:40 UTC

The problem is that I think it will help motivate Dems like Alabama did. Fucking Brannon really did a ton of damage with the loss of that seat.

2018-03-02 20:34:01 UTC

If Strangw would have gotten that nominee the Dems would have lost and lost a ton of momentum.

2018-03-02 20:38:42 UTC

@Den it hasn't even been redistrict'd yet though

2018-03-02 20:39:36 UTC

But people aren't voting if they don't even know what district they will be in a few months.

2018-03-02 20:39:46 UTC

@Den I wouldn't blame Bannon

2018-03-02 20:39:51 UTC

I'd blame McConnell and the GOPe

2018-03-02 20:39:59 UTC

hashtagdontblamethevictim

2018-03-02 20:41:03 UTC

Any GOP Senator from Alabama would have supported Trump 95% of the time. Moore was way too divisive. He barely won his SCOTUS seat which is pathetic in Alabama

2018-03-02 20:41:32 UTC

Strange would have been fine

2018-03-02 20:44:48 UTC

I'm still wondering why people think Bannon is responsible for Moore winning in the primaries

2018-03-02 20:45:37 UTC

Well he backed him. Also a lot of people say that Brannon was leaking stuff about Moore to the media after he won the Primary

2018-03-02 20:45:48 UTC

But who knows if it's true

2018-03-02 20:47:29 UTC

People had this perception that Bannon was trying to make Trump's electoral agenda better outside the white house, and that Moore was part of that. After Moore lost and Trump publicly bashed Bannon, it became apparent that wasn't the case.

2018-03-02 20:51:54 UTC

I think Moore would still have won the primaries without Bannon's endorsement

2018-03-02 21:01:58 UTC

Yeah I think Bannon really spread the false message that the GOP was trying to undermine Trump. It was untue but if it wasn't for traitors who sunk Obamacare repel like McCain the idea would not have found traction. Plenty of blame to go around

2018-03-02 21:02:21 UTC

It wasn't just Bannon.

2018-03-02 21:02:32 UTC

isn't the GOP trying to undermine him though?

2018-03-02 21:03:00 UTC

yeah, GOP senators and congressmen seem to vote with him frequently enough

2018-03-02 21:03:16 UTC

but during the 2016 election they pulled all sorts of BS to try to sabotage Trump

2018-03-02 21:04:07 UTC

Yeah but now that he gave them the Rust Belt it's not advantageous to them. They thought he would lose. Look at the scotes

2018-03-02 21:04:27 UTC

The problem is they have too few numbers in the Senate

2018-03-02 21:05:08 UTC

here's the thing I noticed,

2018-03-02 21:05:19 UTC

in the last 4 midterm elections,

2018-03-02 21:05:23 UTC

(all of them)

2018-03-02 21:06:20 UTC

the party that was leading in the generic ballot never won by the projected margin

2018-03-02 21:06:25 UTC

for instance,

2018-03-02 21:06:33 UTC

in 2014,

2018-03-02 21:06:50 UTC

Republicans outperformed the generic ballot by 3.3 points,

2018-03-02 21:07:46 UTC

before that, Republicans underperformed by 2.6 points,

2018-03-02 21:08:14 UTC

before that, Democrats won but underperformed by 3.6 points,

2018-03-02 21:08:54 UTC

before that, Democrats over-performed by 2.9 points

2018-03-02 21:09:04 UTC

this means that in reality,

2018-03-02 21:09:45 UTC

Democrats could be leading by 9-10 points in the generic ballot and still not take the house,

2018-03-02 21:10:39 UTC

because they need to win 7-8 points in the popular vote to flip the house,

2018-03-02 21:11:40 UTC

so when adjusted with that 2.9-3.6 margin of error, being as high as 10 could not mean much, but being higher than 10 could be troubling

2018-03-02 21:15:25 UTC

It's really not just keeping the house, which is important nonetheless, but winning it with at least 230 seats

2018-03-02 21:15:38 UTC

We don't want it to be too close

2018-03-02 21:16:43 UTC

so, to get it straight

2018-03-02 21:17:13 UTC

2014: Republicans overperofrming by 3.3
2010: Republicans underperforming by 2.6
2006: Democrats underperforming by 3.6
2002: Democrats overpeforming by 2.9

2018-03-02 21:17:14 UTC

?

2018-03-02 21:17:28 UTC

correct

2018-03-02 21:17:31 UTC

keep in mind that in 2002, the GOP actually made gains

2018-03-02 21:17:44 UTC

although I wouldn't be surprised if polling methodology has changed since then

2018-03-02 21:18:08 UTC

by the way, what's more important than speculating over polls is taking action

2018-03-02 21:18:10 UTC

wait

2018-03-02 21:18:20 UTC

come to think of it, you can speculate over polls all you want, but will that actually change anything?

2018-03-02 21:22:21 UTC

okay so,

2018-03-02 21:22:23 UTC

2002: Republicans outperform polls (+2.9)
2006: Democrats underperform polls (-3.6)
2010: Republicans underperform polls (-2.6)
2014: Republicans outperform polls (+3.3)

2018-03-02 21:26:54 UTC

as long as Democrats aren't leading by 9.4 through 10.4, we should be fine

2018-03-02 21:27:05 UTC

make no mistake,

2018-03-02 21:27:18 UTC

the margin of error can swing either way

2018-03-02 21:28:04 UTC

so even if Democrats are leading only by +3.2, they have a shot

2018-03-02 21:28:52 UTC

although with 3.2, it's extremely unlikely they can come close to prevailing,

2018-03-02 21:29:02 UTC

however,

2018-03-02 21:29:14 UTC

this is the most important factor of all,

2018-03-02 21:29:22 UTC

**if** by election day,

2018-03-02 21:29:27 UTC

**if**,

2018-03-02 21:29:36 UTC

Democrats are leading by 10.5 points,

2018-03-02 21:29:49 UTC

they **will** flip the house

2018-03-02 21:30:20 UTC

**100%** chance Democrats flip the house if they are leading the ballot by +10.5

2018-03-02 21:31:11 UTC

2018-03-02 23:37:22 UTC

has anyone else here decided to make a fake FB account to see what the masses are discussing when it comes to the midterms?

2018-03-02 23:37:39 UTC

I've noticed that all the Trump supporter pages are just boomer-tier memes

2018-03-02 23:37:44 UTC

nothing on the midterms

2018-03-02 23:37:51 UTC

@Den did you also notice that?

2018-03-03 00:46:39 UTC

Ron Paul endorses Nick Freitas for the Virginia Senate Seat

2018-03-03 00:46:40 UTC

hmm

2018-03-03 00:53:45 UTC

Lemme look this up

2018-03-03 00:54:27 UTC

"As a sovereign nation, we have an obligation to secure our borders. Our immigration system must be reformed to allow for safe and sensible legal immigration. We cannot allow for processes that do not take into account the best interests of our citizens. The current system has allowed terrorists and criminals to step in front of honest immigrants seeking to assimilate into our society. Nick supports both strengthening our border security and adopting merit-based immigration policies."

2018-03-03 00:54:52 UTC

Sounds like a good guy to me, he seems like my kind of libertarian.

2018-03-03 00:55:07 UTC

He may not have as much reach as Stewart, but I'd keep my eye on him.

2018-03-03 00:57:06 UTC

because of how much leftists are crowing about "muh blue wave," if they lose any of the races in reliably Blue areas like Virginia, that will make things so much sweeter

2018-03-03 01:02:15 UTC

"The borders are open and the country is 10% white, but at least I never voted for anyone who supports Israel!"

2018-03-03 01:02:17 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/419298434671968267/image.jpg

2018-03-03 01:50:20 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/419310527060246530/gubernatorial.GIF

2018-03-03 01:52:51 UTC

map with every district that Clinton or Trump won and lost within 10% of the vote

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/419311162212220929/88_seats.jpg

2018-03-03 02:07:13 UTC

Interesting

2018-03-03 02:41:11 UTC

Why does my state keep running the same Democrats?

2018-03-03 02:41:15 UTC

Itโ€™s very weird

2018-03-03 04:12:06 UTC

@Rhodesiaboo it's the same thing for both parties because that's the nature of political office

2018-03-03 04:12:21 UTC

It takes a hell of a lot of THANKLESS work to run for office

2018-03-03 04:12:38 UTC

I honestly wish that trump could get a new party created.

2018-03-03 04:12:45 UTC

But that would never work.

2018-03-03 04:12:48 UTC

Not in america's system.

2018-03-03 04:12:55 UTC

which means that the people who have already been politicians for many years tend to be the ones who will go for higher offices

2018-03-03 04:13:11 UTC

My State has a lot of liberal newspapers

2018-03-03 04:13:14 UTC

@WildRooHuntingTutorials that'd be a bad idea tbh

2018-03-03 04:13:16 UTC

Theyโ€™re trying to dumb us down

2018-03-03 04:13:20 UTC

I know.

2018-03-03 04:13:36 UTC

What would help is to improve what we've got

2018-03-03 04:13:36 UTC

It would never work.

2018-03-03 04:14:10 UTC

Unfortunately if the republican part branded itself as American Nationalist it would scare normies and mainstreamers away.

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