Message from @🎃Boo-ton🎃

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2018-03-02 20:47:29 UTC  

People had this perception that Bannon was trying to make Trump's electoral agenda better outside the white house, and that Moore was part of that. After Moore lost and Trump publicly bashed Bannon, it became apparent that wasn't the case.

2018-03-02 20:51:54 UTC  

I think Moore would still have won the primaries without Bannon's endorsement

2018-03-02 21:01:58 UTC  

Yeah I think Bannon really spread the false message that the GOP was trying to undermine Trump. It was untue but if it wasn't for traitors who sunk Obamacare repel like McCain the idea would not have found traction. Plenty of blame to go around

2018-03-02 21:02:21 UTC  

It wasn't just Bannon.

2018-03-02 21:02:32 UTC  

isn't the GOP trying to undermine him though?

2018-03-02 21:03:00 UTC  

yeah, GOP senators and congressmen seem to vote with him frequently enough

2018-03-02 21:03:16 UTC  

but during the 2016 election they pulled all sorts of BS to try to sabotage Trump

2018-03-02 21:04:07 UTC  

Yeah but now that he gave them the Rust Belt it's not advantageous to them. They thought he would lose. Look at the scotes

2018-03-02 21:04:27 UTC  

The problem is they have too few numbers in the Senate

2018-03-02 21:05:08 UTC  

here's the thing I noticed,

2018-03-02 21:05:19 UTC  

in the last 4 midterm elections,

2018-03-02 21:05:23 UTC  

(all of them)

2018-03-02 21:06:20 UTC  

the party that was leading in the generic ballot never won by the projected margin

2018-03-02 21:06:25 UTC  

for instance,

2018-03-02 21:06:33 UTC  

in 2014,

2018-03-02 21:06:50 UTC  

Republicans outperformed the generic ballot by 3.3 points,

2018-03-02 21:07:46 UTC  

before that, Republicans underperformed by 2.6 points,

2018-03-02 21:08:14 UTC  

before that, Democrats won but underperformed by 3.6 points,

2018-03-02 21:08:54 UTC  

before that, Democrats over-performed by 2.9 points

2018-03-02 21:09:04 UTC  

this means that in reality,

2018-03-02 21:09:45 UTC  

Democrats could be leading by 9-10 points in the generic ballot and still not take the house,

2018-03-02 21:10:39 UTC  

because they need to win 7-8 points in the popular vote to flip the house,

2018-03-02 21:11:40 UTC  

so when adjusted with that 2.9-3.6 margin of error, being as high as 10 could not mean much, but being higher than 10 could be troubling

2018-03-02 21:15:25 UTC  

It's really not just keeping the house, which is important nonetheless, but winning it with at least 230 seats

2018-03-02 21:15:38 UTC  

We don't want it to be too close

2018-03-02 21:16:43 UTC  

so, to get it straight

2018-03-02 21:17:13 UTC  

2014: Republicans overperofrming by 3.3
2010: Republicans underperforming by 2.6
2006: Democrats underperforming by 3.6
2002: Democrats overpeforming by 2.9

2018-03-02 21:17:14 UTC  

?

2018-03-02 21:17:28 UTC  

correct

2018-03-02 21:17:31 UTC  

keep in mind that in 2002, the GOP actually made gains

2018-03-02 21:17:44 UTC  

although I wouldn't be surprised if polling methodology has changed since then

2018-03-02 21:18:08 UTC  

by the way, what's more important than speculating over polls is taking action

2018-03-02 21:18:10 UTC  

wait

2018-03-02 21:18:20 UTC  

come to think of it, you can speculate over polls all you want, but will that actually change anything?

2018-03-02 21:22:21 UTC  

okay so,

2018-03-02 21:22:23 UTC  

2002: Republicans outperform polls (+2.9)
2006: Democrats underperform polls (-3.6)
2010: Republicans underperform polls (-2.6)
2014: Republicans outperform polls (+3.3)

2018-03-02 21:26:54 UTC  

as long as Democrats aren't leading by 9.4 through 10.4, we should be fine

2018-03-02 21:27:05 UTC  

make no mistake,

2018-03-02 21:27:18 UTC  

the margin of error can swing either way

2018-03-02 21:28:04 UTC  

so even if Democrats are leading only by +3.2, they have a shot