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So yeah the force of the huge size of earth is great enough to hold that ridiculously thin layer of water on the surface, scientists can show calculations, flat earthers can show videos of spinning tennisballs...

2019-07-22 16:37:12 UTC

die in flames yeti

2019-07-22 16:37:20 UTC

are you

2019-07-22 16:37:23 UTC

autistic

2019-07-22 16:37:29 UTC

use your brain

2019-07-22 16:37:31 UTC

like actually

2019-07-22 16:37:32 UTC

Lmfao, do you feel like you're making your argument better with pathetic ad Homs?

2019-07-22 16:37:48 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/602902125432930304/giphy.gif

2019-07-22 16:37:50 UTC

gravity curves spacetime

2019-07-22 16:37:54 UTC

Nevertheless, did you know the gravity is contradicting and inconsistent with basically all the rest of physics @eฬถ----#1457

2019-07-22 16:37:58 UTC

Nope go back to google

2019-07-22 16:38:03 UTC

You misread your copy paste

2019-07-22 16:38:12 UTC

Show me gravity curving space time

2019-07-22 16:38:19 UTC

@97 Eleven you have autistic you redtard

@Citizen Z I was a dishwasher in my first school jobs time, water does stick to thing on it's own, that shows that it can even beat pretty hard forces.

2019-07-22 16:38:30 UTC
2019-07-22 16:38:31 UTC

eฬถ----#1457 has been muted for 7 Day(s)!

2019-07-22 16:39:07 UTC

@BelgianBastard/Charles_McCnaller water doesn't stick to a dishwasher

2019-07-22 16:39:22 UTC

"@97 Eleven you have autistic you redtard"

>new argument to prove the globe model

But again, cohesive forces alone do not get the water to stick to earth, the huge size of solid earth itself is what keeps it there, but the earth crust itself is massive enough to still show the oblateness.

2019-07-22 16:40:05 UTC

@97 Eleven always something weird like that

2019-07-22 16:40:19 UTC

@BelgianBastard/Charles_McCnaller if the gravity causes tides why aren't there any tides in smaller bodies of water

2019-07-22 16:40:25 UTC

Like freshwater bodies per example

Water sticks to anything @citizen I thought u knew physics but clearly have not heard of the cohesive force of water

2019-07-22 16:40:39 UTC

Little odd that gravity has decided to be selective

Size matters @97 Eleven

2019-07-22 16:40:48 UTC

Or is this just evidence of pseudoscience

It does have an effect

2019-07-22 16:41:01 UTC

@BelgianBastard/Charles_McCnaller the same gravitational pull should be exerted on all bodies of water

Just to small for you to see in a glass of water

2019-07-22 16:41:07 UTC

The moon should cause tides on seas

2019-07-22 16:41:14 UTC

And the sun

Never said it does not

2019-07-22 16:41:19 UTC

Just saying ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

You presume it does not

2019-07-22 16:41:33 UTC

@BelgianBastard/Charles_McCnaller then why is it so negligible compared to an ocean

2019-07-22 16:41:40 UTC

Show me in an experiment, a perfect sphere, being spun enough to make it turn oblate, yet have water stick to the top and bottom of it.

Then i will believe you. @BelgianBastard/Charles_McCnaller

2019-07-22 16:41:45 UTC

In fact, if we go off newton's model this would cause inconsistencies

Cause you want the earth to be small (like someone else explained they need to feel special and therefore the universe must ne small) but the size difference is just mindboggling big between an ocean and a glass of water or a water tub. Also a small.lakr is a small container, while the oceans are connected containers spanning the globe, those room for those humongous bodies of water to move....

@Citizen Z look through a telescope to titan. Do you know why I ask this?

2019-07-22 16:45:02 UTC

If the sky has balls we must live on a ball

2019-07-22 16:45:06 UTC

My favorite logic

No not because of that

See I specifically asked titan...

2019-07-22 16:45:58 UTC

@BelgianBastard/Charles_McCnaller not talking about a glass of water, I'm talking about large seas and bodies of water that have negligible or no tides

You want proof of a spinning ball with liquids on it.... look towards titian. It has large large lakes and spins and nothing flies of it

Ofcourse I could be dealing with projection type fellas in which case this is useless

And now I guess frantic Google searches for debunking titan are going on.... really if you know 0hysics you have also seen a lot about planets and moons and should have know titan has large liquid lakes with even less dense material then water in liquid form there. Which also poses problems for the buoyancy hypotheses of some flat earthers.....

2019-07-22 16:49:12 UTC

Show me a picture you took of titan

Oh show me a picture of a flar earth you took first

2019-07-22 16:49:35 UTC

With your powerful telescope

Again a fallacy

The generic fallacy

Works both ways

2019-07-22 16:49:59 UTC

Every picture of earth shows ots flat

2019-07-22 16:50:13 UTC

So you have no pictures of titan?

What picture did you take of flar earth ?

Not a horizon one please

2019-07-22 16:50:33 UTC

Every picture i ever took shows earth isnt a ball

2019-07-22 16:50:59 UTC

Now lets see your titan picture

Lool no I will not go down that road. You ask a planet with liquids, then look toward titan

2019-07-22 16:51:12 UTC

I want to see lakes on titan

2019-07-22 16:51:16 UTC

@BelgianBastard/Charles_McCnaller >claims titan has liquid and is a ball that's spinning
>refuses to provide evidence in the form of pictures under the reasoning "u have to show me pictures of what you haven't claimed first"

2019-07-22 16:51:21 UTC

Logic ๐Ÿค”

2019-07-22 16:52:09 UTC

Oh u r right

2019-07-22 16:52:13 UTC

Foolish me

2019-07-22 16:52:14 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/602905760619298826/ehqjwjezhywtwjtqtkkj.jpeg

2019-07-22 16:52:20 UTC

Found the lakes

2019-07-22 16:52:28 UTC

You win

2019-07-22 16:52:40 UTC

๐Ÿ‘

2019-07-22 16:52:59 UTC

Gosh what a beautiful lake

No the reason is every time someone posts a space picture you deny it as fake or nasa photoshop so yeah that is not something I will waste my time on.

2019-07-22 16:53:13 UTC

I want to swim in it

2019-07-22 16:53:31 UTC

@BelgianBastard/Charles_McCnaller you have no real pictures

You can research spectroscopy and use Google scholar for pictures upon pictures of titan and its lakes and simply shoitat your own brozwers "fake"

2019-07-22 16:54:09 UTC

I gave you posting pic permissions

2019-07-22 16:54:23 UTC

Post your pics of titans lakes

You have no real pictures of earth in the centre of the u iverse too so please stop that nonsense kind of circular reasoning

2019-07-22 16:54:48 UTC

Oh so you make the claim:

2019-07-22 16:54:52 UTC

With source and telescope type so i can fo buy the same telescope and see it myself

2019-07-22 16:54:57 UTC

"Titan has lakes and is a spinning globe"

2019-07-22 16:55:08 UTC

And you're refusing to prove this assertions with excuses

2019-07-22 16:55:18 UTC

In reality you have no evidence

2019-07-22 16:55:21 UTC

K. Just post the pics and telescope type

2019-07-22 16:55:40 UTC

I gave you pic perms

Well for seeing titan I guess there are some high end amateur telescopes, for the lakes you have a lot of footage from the Cassini huygens mission, but yeah o know I know "fake!"

2019-07-22 16:55:48 UTC

I really want to see it

2019-07-22 16:56:12 UTC

So i cant see lakes with my own eyes?

2019-07-22 16:56:17 UTC

^

2019-07-22 16:56:19 UTC

Which is it?

2019-07-22 16:56:37 UTC

Just post the lakes

2019-07-22 16:57:51 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/602907172501716995/Screenshot_20190722-095734_Chrome.jpg

2019-07-22 16:57:58 UTC

That is your belief system

2019-07-22 16:58:13 UTC

Not mine

2019-07-22 16:58:38 UTC

One day you will see how fake those pictures are

Ah you found em and said its fake

What a surprise

2019-07-22 16:59:05 UTC

Do they look real to you?

2019-07-22 16:59:27 UTC

Come on man im being serious

2019-07-22 16:59:32 UTC

Look at it

2019-07-22 16:59:50 UTC

Pictures=reality
>indoctrinated

Dude, if you knew anything about spectroscopy you can get the raw data and see for yourself what was transmitted from.millions of km away and what it is

The please do never post pictures yourself anymore unless u want to be double satndards

2019-07-22 17:00:31 UTC

So the Cassini used a spectrometer?

No I said start with spectroscopy to understand more about the other planets and light and optics

But I guess since you also "know" physics you also know that...

2019-07-22 17:02:39 UTC

The difference between pictures i post and pictures you claim to be real are this...

Pictures i post can be verified and repeated by anyone.

Pictures you claim to be real, cannot be verified and only a tiny group of ppl have to be trusted and believed that they are real

See, all I encounter are dogmas here and I even predicted what you would say, if anyone is indoctrinated .....

2019-07-22 17:02:56 UTC

You have the dogma

No you do NOT have to trust them

Science is intrinsically distrustful of everything

2019-07-22 17:03:29 UTC

You cant give a real verifiable picture if your life depended on it

Hence through a lot of ways you can verify that there are things up there and you can verify what they sent.

2019-07-22 17:03:48 UTC

Correct i do not have trust them

Not according to those ridiculous standards

2019-07-22 17:04:14 UTC

Show me one real picture of titans lakes

2019-07-22 17:04:20 UTC

Please

Well a picture that proves flat earth needs to encompass the whole flare earth

Only then you can say to have a picture of "the flat earth" else you only have portions of it

2019-07-22 17:05:06 UTC

A picture showing the edge would be enough

2019-07-22 17:05:09 UTC

You always change the subject

Yeah that famous ice wall would also be good to see

2019-07-22 17:05:28 UTC

๐Ÿคฆ

2019-07-22 17:05:34 UTC

No one believes in an edge accept globe earthers

Saying you can never see it is circular reasoning

Oh what is it then this time? A dome for you?

2019-07-22 17:06:16 UTC

Globe earthers think they hang upside down and spin and dart and spiral and hurl and shoot thru an infinite vacuum

2019-07-22 17:06:29 UTC

Cuz nasa

2019-07-22 17:06:38 UTC

Same old script

And if anyone changes the subject it is you, you still haven't answered some water related questions and plainly deny everything unless someone can pick you up and drop you at the lakes of titan. Then there is no debate possible only dogma

2019-07-22 17:07:21 UTC

Yes. Same old script. Globies asking for the edge when they think they r hanging onto a ball

Always with nasa

You do know there are around millions and millions of people in different universities and organisations and such who work independently, apparently all to thwart some thousands of people who feel.insecure if the universe is too big...

Flatties asking for pics they do not want! Again double standards citizen!

Same old script

2019-07-22 17:09:43 UTC
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BelgianBastard/Charles_McCnaller#9971 has been muted for 7 Day(s)!

2019-07-22 17:30:19 UTC

๐Ÿ‘

2019-07-22 18:38:13 UTC

wtf is going on

2019-07-22 18:38:18 UTC

in the lounge

2019-07-22 18:38:29 UTC

can anyone stop it

2019-07-22 20:55:28 UTC

I like how you mute people who disagree with you. Thatโ€™s a really cool move to pull on a โ€œcivil debate serverโ€.

2019-07-22 21:09:03 UTC

@CanadianOdyssey you call that a debate? He makes claims. Gets called on them then changes the subject

2019-07-22 21:09:54 UTC

He is only here to provoke

2019-07-22 21:10:27 UTC

Would you be willing to show me a real picture of titans lakes?

2019-07-22 21:10:44 UTC

So instead of allowing the discussion to reach a natural conclusion you mute him and force him to concede. Thatโ€™s an incredibly eloquent argumentation technique.

2019-07-22 21:11:34 UTC

No. I mute the persistant debate troll

2019-07-22 21:11:48 UTC

No trolling

2019-07-22 21:12:29 UTC

10. Persistent Debate Troll
This troll loves to argue. They can take thoroughly researched and fact-based content, and come at it from all angles to challenge its message. They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. Theyโ€™re determined to have the last word โ€“ continuing to comment until the other user gives up.

2019-07-22 21:12:55 UTC

Was a pointless discussion

2019-07-22 21:12:55 UTC

Thatโ€™s not a troll, youโ€™re just being childish. You disagreed. Get over it. You think heโ€™s wrong he thinks your wrong. If you were that annoyed with the lacking quality you could have just stopped.

2019-07-22 21:13:02 UTC
2019-07-22 21:13:04 UTC

CanadianOdyssey#9502 has been muted for 7 Day(s)!

2019-07-22 21:13:13 UTC

To be fair, these guys deal with petulant visitors demanding answers multiple times a day.

2019-07-22 21:13:14 UTC

Bye

2019-07-22 21:13:43 UTC

It wasnt a disagreement

2019-07-22 21:14:19 UTC

It was a person making claims..they got caught up in a claim they couldnt back up. Then decided to be a debate troll

2019-07-22 21:14:29 UTC

That was towards CanadianOdyssey in support of you.

2019-07-22 21:14:39 UTC

I know it was

2019-07-22 21:14:52 UTC

oh, gotcha

2019-07-22 21:15:53 UTC

I can certainly sympathize with the short fuse, especially when they come in half-cocked and nothing to back up their claims.

2019-07-22 21:16:47 UTC

Concern trolling is also not tolerated

2019-07-22 21:16:50 UTC

8. Concern Troll
This troll posts in the guise of โ€œconcern,โ€ to disrupt dialogue or undermine the server morale. They often point out problems that donโ€™t really exist. The intent is to derail, stifle and control the dialogue. It is viewed as insincere and condescending.

2019-07-22 21:17:02 UTC

Thats all he was doinh

2019-07-22 21:17:17 UTC

I know, there's a lot of that after a mute

2019-07-22 21:17:25 UTC

He has no clue what i was gonna do

2019-07-22 21:18:18 UTC

Muting ppl brings the best or the worst out in ppl

2019-07-22 21:18:32 UTC

In those two cases they showed their true colors

2019-07-22 21:19:40 UTC

i usually stay out of this channel cuz most ppl make outlandish claims here. Like they live in some other world

2019-07-22 21:21:16 UTC

This is a debate channel. As far as I'm concerned, you better be ready to properly debate in here.

2019-07-22 21:21:27 UTC

Joke around in the Lounge.

2019-07-22 21:31:15 UTC

I do wish he would show me which pictures are so believable

2019-07-22 23:25:59 UTC

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2019-07-22 23:27:16 UTC

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2019-07-23 00:04:01 UTC

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^ This spam is a problem

2019-07-23 13:58:05 UTC

wth

2019-07-23 15:48:43 UTC

This server seems less chaotic

2019-07-23 16:06:51 UTC

are you a human ?

2019-07-23 22:20:11 UTC

Earth is round only mรธรธn landing was fake.

2019-07-23 22:25:38 UTC

&mute @Jace!

2019-07-23 22:25:38 UTC

@Jace! is invalid

2019-07-23 22:25:47 UTC

:?

2019-07-23 22:40:36 UTC

Oof

2019-07-23 23:13:36 UTC

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Now Flatsmacking Becca#4835!

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Finished Spamming Becca#4835!

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&flatsmack @ajflano

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2019-07-24 03:01:06 UTC

Nice a spamming function

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2019-07-24 07:52:49 UTC

planes can fly when some of the engines fail, and glide when all fail.....

2019-07-24 09:46:41 UTC

So can helicopters actually

2019-07-24 09:46:46 UTC

Weirdly enough

2019-07-24 10:52:36 UTC

B52 in WW2? First factual error there

2019-07-24 11:00:21 UTC

considering he is a game dev, i would not take his info at hart. he probably didn't even realise

2019-07-24 11:24:33 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/603548071845953567/MostlyFlatArtificialSun.png

2019-07-24 15:28:39 UTC

Jeez

2019-07-24 15:28:57 UTC

I canโ€™t believe this movement has gained this much traction

2019-07-24 15:30:22 UTC

well, their entire argument is that all sources brainwash the mainstream population

2019-07-24 15:30:36 UTC

whilst using sources that they can't disprove also brainwashes people

2019-07-24 15:30:41 UTC

Thatโ€™s what brainwashers tell you to make you more susceptible to the brainwashing

2019-07-24 15:33:10 UTC

@NickC64 if he doesnโ€™t come here, just donโ€™t respond

2019-07-24 15:33:15 UTC

Itโ€™ll get us muted

2019-07-24 15:33:23 UTC

true true

2019-07-24 15:34:54 UTC

welp, the very first question i have for the flat-earth system is why there's a day and night if the sun is a sphere

2019-07-24 15:35:39 UTC

the only way to back up that claim is if it is also claimed that the sun is a spotlight

2019-07-24 15:38:47 UTC

Flatearthers have no evidence at all

2019-07-24 15:42:25 UTC

to be honest we don't have to debunk their "logic"

2019-07-24 15:42:40 UTC

we just wait for elon musk to send humans to mars

2019-07-24 15:42:42 UTC

to be fair, they do it to themselves

2019-07-24 15:42:59 UTC

let a flat earther go to mars and see earth for themselves

2019-07-24 15:43:04 UTC

Smart

2019-07-24 15:43:11 UTC

of course they probably will say that it's all a hologram

2019-07-24 15:43:18 UTC

ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

2019-07-24 15:43:21 UTC

It was the Russians!!

2019-07-24 15:43:33 UTC

but at least more people will see the ridiculousness of their argument

2019-07-24 15:43:40 UTC

Yeah ik

2019-07-24 15:43:47 UTC

well no, because sending a FE to mars would be a waste of resources, send people who can actually appreciate the science to mars

2019-07-24 15:43:49 UTC

I donโ€™t understand why a flat earth is a thing

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