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2018-12-02 19:35:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2019-04-24 23:33:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2019-04-24 23:36:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Theoretically we should be able to setup an experiment that can measure the attraction between two small objects

2019-04-24 23:36:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But such an experiment does not exist

2019-04-24 23:37:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Really makes you wonder if this magical nonsense is true ๐Ÿค”

2019-04-24 23:38:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yep

2019-04-24 23:38:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Plus there's also other ways to disprove gravity

2019-04-24 23:38:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Quite a few

2019-04-24 23:41:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Gravity is unproven and it's existence contradicts proven theories

2019-04-24 23:41:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Therefore it's quite obvious that gravity is wrong

2019-04-24 23:46:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Who here believes in gravity and who doesn't?

2019-04-24 23:46:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

GR

2019-04-24 23:46:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

General relativity

2019-04-24 23:47:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Newtonian gravity nor general relativity have been proven

2019-04-24 23:49:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Except they don't

2019-04-24 23:49:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Neither work as theories

2019-04-24 23:50:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Gravity and furthermore general relativity cannot be reconciled with one of the most successfully theories in physics.

2019-04-24 23:50:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

They're not working theories

2019-04-24 23:51:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

A complete theory of gravity would be quantum gravity

2019-04-24 23:51:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And there's a reason that doesn't exist

2019-04-24 23:51:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

No it isn't

2019-04-24 23:51:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It doesn't exist in the quantum world

2019-04-24 23:51:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Simple as that

2019-04-24 23:52:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Why? Because it's utterly wrong.

2019-04-24 23:53:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Even though I have formally studied QM I feel no reason to tell you where

2019-04-24 23:53:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Doesn't change the fact that my claims are correct

2019-04-24 23:54:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If you attempt to apply perturbation theory to gravity you can't renormalize it afterwards.

2019-04-24 23:54:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Plus by trying to quantise the einstein-hilbert field equations we're only able to quantise the stress-energy-momentum tensor, not the metric tensor.

2019-04-24 23:54:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I mean, you can assert your own flawed preconceptions of a flat earther but they don't apply to all

2019-04-24 23:55:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

In fact, learning more advanced physics helped me realize how wrong gravity is.

2019-04-24 23:55:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Quantim physics is the reason you're able to use whatever device you're own right now.

2019-04-24 23:55:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You think gravity=QM?

2019-04-24 23:55:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

๐Ÿค”

2019-04-24 23:56:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Oh here comes the ignorance

2019-04-24 23:56:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Is your argument that we dont understand QFT

2019-04-24 23:56:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The arguably most successful theory in physics?

2019-04-24 23:56:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Both

2019-04-24 23:57:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The first sentence was to both of you

2019-04-24 23:57:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I'm not "most fe"

2019-04-24 23:58:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Identify what needs further advancement

2019-04-24 23:59:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I'm starting to assume that you are someone who doesn't possess any knowledge of advanced physics

2019-04-24 23:59:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yep there we are

2019-04-24 23:59:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@AstralSentient Do you even know QM

2019-04-25 00:00:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

To claim a theory requires further advancement requires a decent understanding of said topic

2019-04-25 00:00:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@jeremy the globe model is wrong so I dont categories

2019-04-25 00:00:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Care*

2019-04-25 00:00:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@AstralSentient and what part of QM requires further advancement

2019-04-25 00:01:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

There is no connection to gravity, and there never will be

2019-04-25 00:02:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Show me how to quantise the metric tensor of the einstein-hilbert field equations

2019-04-25 00:02:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Or how to successfully apply renormalization after applying perturbation theory to gravity

2019-04-25 00:02:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You don't understand.

2019-04-25 00:02:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Curving spacetime is the issue.

2019-04-25 00:02:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Do you even know GR?

2019-04-25 00:03:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I've already spoken to "experts in the field"

2019-04-25 00:03:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Majority of what I'm saying is physics established by scientist that believe your model.

2019-04-25 00:03:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Define gravity in GR.

2019-04-25 00:03:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

๐Ÿค”

2019-04-25 00:04:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Then why is he defending gravity?

2019-04-25 00:04:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You don't even know GR

2019-04-25 00:05:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

GR's gravity has no actual proof

2019-04-25 00:05:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

As a mathematical model it can predict things that align with the *globe* model

2019-04-25 00:05:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But when it comes to FE it doesn't

2019-04-25 00:06:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And the math behind GR leads to contradictions within itself

2019-04-25 00:06:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

As sure as I am that GR is utter nonsense

2019-04-25 00:07:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

UA is wrong

2019-04-25 00:08:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If you believe in the FES nonsense then you're completely wrong

2019-04-25 00:08:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Even globe earthers can debunk UA

2019-04-25 00:09:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Define the equivalence principle

2019-04-25 00:10:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What's the source of the acceleration

2019-04-25 00:11:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

UA is made by a controlled opposition group

2019-04-25 00:12:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Lmao

2019-04-25 00:12:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Tell me this

2019-04-25 00:12:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Why did we first determine the equivalence principle

2019-04-25 00:12:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What mathematical relation led to it

2019-04-25 00:13:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

๐Ÿค”

2019-04-25 00:13:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I asked the question

2019-04-25 00:14:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I'll wait

2019-04-25 00:15:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It arises due to the fact that gravational mass is exactly equal to inertial mads

2019-04-25 00:15:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Mass*

2019-04-25 00:15:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I'm just demonstrating your ignorance

2019-04-25 00:15:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You don't know what you're citing

2019-04-25 00:16:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

UA falls apart quite easily from numerous points of views

2019-04-25 00:17:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@AstralSentient so tell me, what's providing the infinite source of energy that allows UA

2019-04-25 00:17:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I'm rather curious

2019-04-25 00:19:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Then are you asserting that UA is right or wrong?

2019-04-25 00:27:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Perspective for the former and rayleigh scattering plus atmospheric extinction for the latter

2019-04-25 00:30:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Optics

2019-04-25 00:30:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Angular size and resolution are important

2019-04-25 00:30:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Indio made a good vid about it

2019-04-25 00:32:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Maybe

2019-04-26 19:03:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@Happygrandad do you know how they actually detect gravational waves?

2019-04-26 19:28:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@dustbreather you're a globe earther?

2019-04-26 19:29:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Are you a blind believer or do you have proof?

2019-04-26 19:30:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Plenty you say?

2019-04-26 19:30:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Why don't you name one

2019-04-26 19:31:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

๐Ÿค”

2019-04-26 19:36:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@Happygrandad and how did it actually do it

2019-04-26 19:36:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Stating they used lasers doesnt explain anything

2019-04-26 19:36:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Unless you actually understand the method they used you cant claim these were reliable and definite proof

2019-04-26 19:37:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@criticallyred what's your proof of a globe earth

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