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20) If Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, vertically-fired cannonballs and other projectiles should fall significantly due west. In actual fact, however, whenever this has been tested, vertically-fired cannonballs shoot upwards an average of 14 seconds ascending, 14 seconds descending, and fall back to the ground no more than 2 feet away from the cannon, often directly back into the muzzle.


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My next meme
@Dusty : Gr8, tx


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21) If the Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, helicopters and hot-air balloons should be able to simply hover over the surface of the Earth and wait for their destinations to come to them!


2018-08-11 19:55:05 UTC

kom bitch

2018-08-11 19:55:18 UTC

@Deejay from Earth I thought the dome is moving with it

2018-08-11 19:55:48 UTC

22) If Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, during the Red Bull stratosphere dive, Felix Baumgartner, spending 3 hours ascending over New Mexico, should have landed 2500 miles West into the Pacific Ocean but instead landed a few dozen miles East of the take-off point.

2018-08-11 19:56:17 UTC

@Deejay from Earth I thought the dome is moving with it

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23) Ball-believers often claim “gravity” magically and inexplicably drags the entire lower-atmosphere of the Earth in perfect synchronization up to some undetermined height where this progressively faster spinning atmosphere gives way to the non-spinning, non-gravitized, non-atmosphere of infinite vacuum space. Such non-sensical theories are debunked, however, by rain, fireworks, birds, bugs, clouds, smoke, planes and projectiles all of which would behave very differently if both the ball-Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards at 1000mph.


2018-08-11 19:56:31 UTC

@Deejay from Earth I thought the dome is moving with it

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24) If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning eastwards over 1000mph then North/South facing cannons should establish a control while East-firing cannonballs should fall significantly farther than all others while West-firing cannonballs should fall significantly closer. In actual fact, however, regardless of which direction cannons are fired, the distance covered is always the same.

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25) If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning eastwards over 1000mph, then the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph should never be able to reach its Eastward destinations before they come speeding up from behind! Likewise Westward destinations should be arrived at thrice the speed, but this is not the case.

2018-08-11 19:57:46 UTC

you are so lazy

2018-08-11 19:58:00 UTC

idk man

2018-08-11 19:58:11 UTC

So say the same author


2018-08-11 19:58:18 UTC

i'm still waiting on how the flat earth model can exist

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26) Quoting “Heaven and Earth” by Gabrielle Henriet, “If flying had been invented at the time of Copernicus, there is no doubt that he would have soon realized that his contention regarding the rotation of the earth was wrong, on account of the relation existing between the speed of an aircraft and that of the earth’s rotation. If the earth rotates, as it is said, at 1,000 miles an hour, and a plane flies in the same direction at only 500 miles, it is obvious that its place of destination will be farther removed every minute. On the other hand, if flying took place in the direction opposite to that of the rotation, a distance of 1,500 miles would be covered in one hour, instead of 500, since the speed of the rotation is to be added to that of the plane. It could also be pointed out that such a flying speed of 1,000 miles an hour, which is supposed to be that of the earth’s rotation, has recently been achieved, so that an aircraft flying at this rate in the same direction as that of the rotation could not cover any ground at all. It would remain suspended in mid-air over the spot from which it took off, since both speeds are equal.”

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2018-08-11 19:58:24 UTC

Now i know why, you love a flat earth !! @Deejay from Earth


2018-08-11 19:58:38 UTC

@RaRi Lol

2018-08-11 19:58:52 UTC

1. both the sun and the moon orbit in the pattern as shown on flat earth model, how have they not lost orbit if theres nothing in between them

2018-08-11 19:58:55 UTC

27) If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards over 1000mph, landing airplanes on such fast-moving runways which face all manner of directions North, South, East, West and otherwise would be practically impossible, yet in reality such fictional concerns are completely negligible.


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So say the same author of this


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28) If the Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards over 1000mph, then clouds, wind and weather patterns could not casually and unpredictably go every which way, with clouds often travelling in opposing directions at varying altitudes simultaneously.

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The dome keeping the clouds in, I know

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29) If the Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards over 1000mph, this should somewhere somehow be seen, heard, felt or measured by someone, yet no one in history has ever experienced this alleged Eastward motion; meanwhile, however, we can hear, feel and experimentally measure even the slightest Westward breeze.


2018-08-11 20:00:38 UTC

because its normal

2018-08-11 20:00:58 UTC

deejay is 46 arguing with 18 year olds on the internet

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But the dome has a strong force field to keep the sun radiation out. What is it made of, again?

2018-08-11 20:01:03 UTC

he needs his old man sleep

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air also weighs and you carry a massive force but you dont feel it moron

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30) In his book “South Sea Voyages,” Arctic and Antarctic explorer Sir James Clarke Ross, described his experience on the night of November 27th, 1839 and his conclusion that the Earth must be motionless: “The sky being very clear … it enabled us to observe the higher stratum of clouds to be moving in an exactly opposite direction to that of the wind--a circumstance which is frequently recorded in our meteorological journal both in the north-east and south-east trades, and has also often been observed by former voyagers. Captain Basil Hall witnessed it from the summit of the Peak of Teneriffe; and Count Strzelechi, on ascending the volcanic mountain of Kiranea, in Owhyhee, reached at 4000 feet an elevation above that of the trade wind, and experienced the influence of an opposite current of air of a different hygrometric and thermometric condition … Count Strzelechi further informed me of the following seemingly anomalous circumstance--that at the height of 6000 feet he found the current of air blowing at right angles to both the lower strata, also of a different hygrometric and thermometric condition, but warmer than the inter-stratum. Such a state of the atmosphere is compatible only with the fact which other evidence has demonstrated, that the earth is at rest."

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Your captain was drunk

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can an admin just purge all the copy pasted stuff of deejay, no one is gonna read it and it can be considered spam

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31) Quoting “Zetetic Cosmogeny” Thomas Winships states: “Let ‘imagination’ picture to the mind what force air would have which was set in motion by a spherical body of 8,000 miles in diameter, which in one hour was spinning round 1,000 mph, rushing through space at 65,000 mph and gyrating across the heavens? Then let ‘conjecture’ endeavor to discover whether the inhabitants on such a globe could keep their hair on? If the earth-globe rotates on its axis at the terrific rate of 1,000 miles an hour, such an immense mass would of necessity cause a tremendous rush of wind in the space it occupied. The wind would go all one way, and anything like clouds which got ‘within the sphere of influence’ of the rotating sphere, would have to go the same way. The fact that the earth is at rest is proved by kite flying.”

2018-08-11 20:02:34 UTC

@Deejay from Earth join vetting

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#DJ is n poes

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or are you puss

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@Deejay from Earth is working with a plan


2018-08-11 20:05:33 UTC

No-one can HEAR ME! Dammit!

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32) If “gravity” is credited with being a force strong enough to hold the world’s oceans, buildings, people and atmosphere stuck to the surface of a rapidly spinning ball, then it is impossible for “gravity” to also simultaneously be weak enough to allow little birds, bugs, and planes to take-off and travel freely unabated in any direction.

2018-08-11 20:05:55 UTC

And now I cant hear you! I think I must have a flat head

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33) If “gravity” is credited with being a force strong enough to curve the massive expanse of oceans around a globular Earth, it would be impossible for fish and other creatures to swim through such forcefully held water.

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@RaRi I have lost voice and audio!

2018-08-11 20:07:06 UTC

"it would be impossible for fish and other creatures to swim through such forcefully held water" LOL

2018-08-11 20:07:07 UTC

34) Ship captains in navigating great distances at sea never need to factor the supposed curvature of the Earth into their calculations. Both Plane Sailing and Great Circle Sailing, the most popular navigation methods, use plane, not spherical trigonometry, making all mathematical calculations on the assumption that the Earth is perfectly flat. If the Earth were in fact a sphere, such an errant assumption would lead to constant glaring inaccuracies. Plane Sailing has worked perfectly fine in both theory and practice for thousands of years, however, and plane trigonometry has time and again proven more accurate than spherical trigonometry in determining distances across the oceans.


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Black magic has traditionally referred to the use of supernatural powers or magic for evil and selfish purposes.[1] With respect to the left-hand path and right-hand path dichotomy, black magic is the malicious, left-hand counterpart of the benevolent white magic. In modern times, some find that the definition of "black magic" has been convoluted by people who define magic or ritualistic practices that they disapprove of as "black magic".[2]

2018-08-11 20:07:48 UTC

i wil camand lihtning to atack you

2018-08-11 20:08:33 UTC

@Deejay from Earth don't you have eyes !!!!!!! its a flat map

2018-08-11 20:08:59 UTC

You pasting shit...........................

2018-08-11 20:09:01 UTC

Yes, ship’s navigators do take account of curvature and use spherical geometry; they use latitude and longitude, which are just angles in a spherical coordinate system - so why use that instead of just cartesian coordinates? They use sextants and almanacs to determine their position on the globe.

2018-08-11 20:09:03 UTC

I know its flat bru

2018-08-11 20:09:18 UTC

Yes, ship’s navigators do take account of curvature and use spherical geometry; they use latitude and longitude, which are just angles in a spherical coordinate system - so why use that instead of just cartesian coordinates? They use sextants and almanacs to determine their position on the globe.

2018-08-11 20:09:35 UTC

if oyu know its flat then havent you shown us pictures of you in space

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all you post are just copy paste... and I pasted the reponse to it just here

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35) If the Earth were truly a globe, then every line of latitude south of the equator would have to measure a gradually smaller and smaller circumference the farther South travelled. If, however, the Earth is an extended plane, then every line of latitude south of the equator should measure a gradually larger and larger circumference the farther South travelled. The fact that many captains navigating south of the equator assuming the globular theory have found themselves drastically out of reckoning, moreso the farther South travelled, testifies to the fact that the Earth is not a ball.


2018-08-11 20:10:03 UTC

that response is just under the source where you got it from. Why do you not read further

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36) During Captain James Clark Ross’s voyages around the Antarctic circumference, he often wrote in his journal perplexed at how they routinely found themselves out of accordance with their charts, stating that they found themselves an average of 12-16 miles outside their reckoning every day, later on further south as much as 29 miles.


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ask try purch 100

2018-08-11 20:11:25 UTC

Im not, was a joke Free speach is important

2018-08-11 20:11:26 UTC

stopp pasting, we all know your article

2018-08-11 20:11:31 UTC

They just ignore it

2018-08-11 20:11:47 UTC

So now we read it together

2018-08-11 20:11:53 UTC

deejay are you gonna prove these yourself?

2018-08-11 20:12:05 UTC

we haw been reading evrething\

2018-08-11 20:12:10 UTC

but no reason to paste it here like a monkey paragraph by paragraph

2018-08-11 20:12:11 UTC

or are u just some regurgitating retard like how protestant said to me?

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37) Lieutenant Charles Wilkes commanded a United States Navy exploration expedition to the Antarctic from 1838 to 1842, and in his journals also mentioned being consistently east of his reckoning, sometimes over 20 miles in less than 18 hours.

2018-08-11 20:12:45 UTC

because protestant said my education doesnt matter bc "youre just regurgitating stuff people youve never met"

2018-08-11 20:12:51 UTC

when youre doing the same thing

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this is the article, stop posting it

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go figure

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38) To quote Reverend Thomas Milner, “In the southern hemisphere, navigators to India have often fancied themselves east of the Cape when still west, and have been driven ashore on the African coast, which, according to their reckoning, lay behind them. This misfortune happened to a fine frigate, the Challenger, in 1845. How came Her Majesty’s Ship ‘Conqueror,’ to be lost? How have so many other noble vessels, perfectly sound, perfectly manned, perfectly navigated, been wrecked in calm weather, not only in dark night, or in a fog, but in broad daylight and sunshine - in the former case upon the coasts, in the latter, upon sunken rocks - from being ‘out of reckoning?’” The simple answer is that Earth is not a ball.


2018-08-11 20:13:53 UTC

39) Practical distance measurements taken from “The Australian Handbook, Almanack, Shippers’ and Importers’ Directory” state that the straight line distance between Sydney and Nelson is 1550 statute miles. Their given difference in longitude is 22 degrees 2’14”. Therefore if 22 degrees 2’14” out of 360 is 1550 miles, the entirety would measure 25,182 miles. This is not only larger than the ball-Earth is said to be at the equator, but a whole 4262 miles greater than it would be at Sydney’s southern latitude on a globe of said proportions.

2018-08-11 20:13:56 UTC

deejay taake a cruise from mexico to australia

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tell me how long it takes

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40) From near Cape Horn, Chile to Port Philip in Melbourne, Australia the distance is 10,500 miles, or 143 degrees of longitude away. Factoring in the remaining degrees to 360 makes for a total distance of 26,430 miles around this particular latitude, which is over 1500 miles wider than Earth is supposed to be at the equator, and many more thousands of miles wider than it is supposed to be at such Southern latitudes.

41) Similar calculations made from the Cape of Good Hope, South Africa to Melbourne, Australia at an average latitude of 35.5 degrees South, have given an approximate figure of over 25,000 miles, which is again equal to or greater than the Earth’s supposed greatest circumference at the equator. Calculations from Sydney, Australia to Wellington, New Zealand at an average of 37.5 degrees South have given an approximate circumference of 25,500 miles, greater still! According to the ball-Earth theory, the circumference of the Earth at 37.5 degrees Southern latitude should be only 19,757 statute miles, almost six thousand miles less than such practical measurements.

2018-08-11 20:14:18 UTC

42) In the ball-Earth model Antarctica is an ice continent which covers the bottom of the ball from 78 degrees South latitude to 90 and is therefore not more than 12,000 miles in circumference. Many early explorers including Captian Cook and James Clark Ross, however, in attempting Antarctic circumnavigation took 3 to 4 years and clocked 50-60,000 miles around. The British ship Challenger also made an indirect but complete circumnavigation of Antarctica traversing 69,000 miles. This is entirely inconsistent with the ball model.

2018-08-11 20:14:24 UTC

There we go! 😂

2018-08-11 20:14:30 UTC

you carry on at 43 please

2018-08-11 20:14:38 UTC

remember to do the pics as well

2018-08-11 20:14:48 UTC

@Guss you are LEGEND!

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ok, you do those

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well you missed lik 35 pics

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I'll help you on the text

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44) If Earth was a ball, and Antarctica was too cold to fly over, the only logical way to fly from Sydney to Santiago would be a straight shot over the Pacific staying in the Southern hemisphere the entire way. Re-fueling could be done in New Zealand or other Southern hemisphere destinations along the way if absolutely necessary. In actual fact, however, Santiago-Sydney flights go into the Northern hemisphere making stop-overs at LAX and other North American airports before continuing back down to the Southern hemisphere. Such ridiculously wayward detours make no sense on the globe but make perfect sense and form nearly straight lines when shown on a flat Earth map.

45) On a ball-Earth, Johannesburg, South Africa to Perth, Australia should be a straight shot over the Indian Ocean with convenient re-fueling possibilities on Mauritus or Madagascar. In actual practice, however, most Johannesburg to Perth flights curiously stop over either in Dubai, Hong Kong or Malaysia all of which make no sense on the ball, but are completely understandable when mapped on a flat Earth

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46) On a ball-Earth Cape Town, South Africa to Buenos Aries, Argentina should be a straight shot over the Atlantic following the same line of latitude across, but instead every flight goes to connecting locations in the Northern hemisphere first, stopping over anywhere from London to Turkey to Dubai. Once again these make absolutely no sense on the globe but are completely understandable options when mapped on a flat Earth.

47) On a ball-Earth Johannesburg, South Africa to Sao Paolo, Brazil should be a quick straight shot along the 25th Southern latitude, but instead nearly every flight makes a re-fueling stop at the 50th degree North latitude in London first! The only reason such a ridiculous stop-over works in reality is because the Earth is flat.

48) On a ball-Earth Santiago, Chile to Johannesburg, South Africa should be an easy flight all taking place below the Tropic of Capricorn in the Southern hemisphere, yet every listed flight makes a curious re-fueling stop in Senegal near the Tropic of Cancer in the North hemisphere first! When mapped on a flat Earth the reason why is clear to see, however, Senegal is actually directly in a straight-line path half-way between the two.

49) If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summers in Africa while just a few thousand miles away bone-chilling frozen Arctic/Antarctic winters experiencing little to no heat from the Sun whatsoever. If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles to the Sahara desert, it is absurd to assert that another 4,000 miles (0.00004%) further to Antarctica would completely negate such sweltering heat resulting in such drastic differences.

2018-08-11 20:15:52 UTC

love you Guss

2018-08-11 20:16:03 UTC

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZEEEEEEEEEEE just stop there is still 150 more

2018-08-11 20:16:12 UTC

@RaRi - yeah he got dropped on the head and uses his ass to smoke!

2018-08-11 20:16:12 UTC

@Deejay from Earth you love your copy and past fake stuff 😉 you smoke way to much stuff or you got dropped on the head as a baby 😄

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@Deejay from Earth is smoking cheap stuff. like bath salts or sniffing glue

2018-08-11 20:19:45 UTC

And this is @Deejay from Earth author, where he is copy pasting his facts from

2018-08-11 20:19:50 UTC

Eric Dubay


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@Deejay from Earth join the voice channel

2018-08-11 20:20:36 UTC

Ok, you're on the floor
What do you see?
You see mainly a flat surface? Why is that? Your perspective relative to your distance to the ground is identical to the ground's perspective. So you're on the floor, it's impossible to see a curve anywhere, because you aren't high enough to see any form of curve. Now, imagine this in a child, still developing and maturing, especially less than 2 years old. they get dropped, they sustain possibly fatal injuries. But, the brain is on almost a 1ms delay on taking any form of stimulus. So, in that 1ms, they open their eyes after falling, seeing that flat surface. It becoms comforting, becomes their perspective
So, with that, if you are dropped constantly, you become more and more aware of your perspective from such a low relative height. And what do you constantly see? A flat surface
Bam, confirmed: flat earthers were dropped as children

2018-08-11 20:20:58 UTC

Jeez he just needs to go vegan and start posting vegan propaganda as well...

2018-08-11 20:21:23 UTC

@Deejay from Earth Join the voice channel, plse.

2018-08-11 20:23:26 UTC

Now i have to listen, i got no mic now

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Guys just boosting your levels here arent ya lol

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al daai moeite

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and that <#469490581899575297> don;t get xp's

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yeah, why do you think, imagine who would be king then lol

2018-08-11 20:28:58 UTC

maar dit was lekker

2018-08-11 20:29:19 UTC

dit was nogal snaaks om te lees

2018-08-12 03:44:01 UTC

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2018-08-12 03:52:29 UTC

shut up boomer

2018-08-12 04:02:29 UTC

@4rvp Liberal twat

2018-08-12 04:03:47 UTC

@4rvp It's only the letf that wants to force everyone to do things their way. The "Tolerant" left.

2018-08-12 04:05:00 UTC

Liberal where??


2018-08-12 04:05:20 UTC

@4rvp In your words and actions.

2018-08-12 04:05:45 UTC

@4rvp We all know you have no idea what you actually believe about anything

2018-08-12 04:06:20 UTC

Because i dont think the world is flat, im a liberal?

2018-08-12 04:07:31 UTC

No because you tolerate only the mainstream CNN views of the world and want to force everyone yo think the same as you.

2018-08-12 04:07:52 UTC

i don't watch CNN

2018-08-12 04:08:08 UTC

@4rvp Classical cultural marxism

2018-08-12 04:09:06 UTC

Not even a marxist

2018-08-12 04:09:51 UTC

@4rvp Pick whatever label you like. It's just some form of communism with a different name.

2018-08-12 04:10:00 UTC

Spanish nationalism?

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Falange, Francoism?

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Pretty sure millions of reds died fighting AGAINST those things

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If you wanna attack me for personal beliefs, at least do it right

2018-08-12 04:11:15 UTC

At least im not a 46 year old virgin

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2018-08-12 04:11:36 UTC

Aaaaw cute

2018-08-12 04:12:01 UTC

Because all you know of me is the fact that I know the eath is not flat

2018-08-12 04:12:11 UTC

That stems into literally nowhere politically nor personally

2018-08-12 04:12:31 UTC

you're 46 years old arguing with an 18 year old over the internet

2018-08-12 04:12:41 UTC

Go get a job, get a life, and try to get a girlfriend, you virgin

2018-08-12 04:12:55 UTC

@4rvp You "know" it but you can't prove it with science. That sums up this whole palaba.

2018-08-12 04:37:03 UTC

**We don't even need to go to overt communism actually. The citizenry have been so comprehensively brainwashed that they themselves act as the SS to keep others in line who dare to have an opinion of their own or speak out against the company line.**

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Job 12:15 Behold, he withholds the waters, and they dry up: also he sends them out, and they overturn the earth

2018-08-12 05:01:45 UTC

1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”

Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”

Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”

Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”

2018-08-12 05:03:59 UTC

“Beef voor sy aangesig, o ganse aarde! Ook staan die wêreld vas, sodat dit nie wankel nie.” (1 Kronieke 16 vers 30.)

2018-08-12 05:04:14 UTC

Genesis 1:9, "And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so

2018-08-12 05:04:58 UTC

the question of how can the earth be flat if the water it was created on is spherical in nature and still holds that same spherical shape to this day?

2018-08-12 05:06:19 UTC

@MR VLAK You only assume the spherical nature - this has never been observed or scientifically proven by anyone.

2018-08-12 05:07:01 UTC

water by its nature without external influence is what? a sphere

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Water takes the shape of the INSIDE of a container - not the OUTSIDE. When you pour a cup of tea, do you pour the water on the inside or outside of the cup?

2018-08-12 05:08:56 UTC

there was water before God created land. No containers...

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Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

2018-08-12 05:12:32 UTC

Yeah I'm pretty sure the waters were divided from the waters and there is water above the firmament. Can't really prove that yet but its interesting.

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2018-08-12 05:15:31 UTC

That is very interesting actually. It illustrates it as a globe with "earth" as a flat circle inside it.

2018-08-12 05:16:27 UTC

"The face of the waters" - sphere doesn't have a face it's the same from all sides. But like the face of a clock is flat. Water is provably and logically flat dude. And seventy percent of the earths surface is covered in water.

2018-08-12 05:17:53 UTC

@MR VLAK I am truly sick and tired of talking to you now. We can agree that we will never agree and move on.

2018-08-12 05:18:35 UTC

We can. But then we have to agree not to post Flat or Sphere Earth stuff here?

2018-08-12 05:21:16 UTC

@MR VLAK Nope, just that you and me will not ever come to a conclusion on the matter. All avenues have been exhausted here and from here it's just a waste of everyone's time. Go do some actual research, and come back when you actually have some proof of your own you can back up with more than just your mouth.

2018-08-12 05:22:38 UTC

Fine we carry on then. Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form. Yet you claim it flat because a sphere doesn't have a face

2018-08-12 05:24:24 UTC

Rather selective in your interpretations...<:Hmm2:469473861654806531>

2018-08-12 05:33:11 UTC

do you believe that Horus & Jesus share the same story?

2018-08-12 05:34:41 UTC

just by the way read what Satanists have to say about FE's http://www.satanicsf.com/flat-earthers-satan-conspiracy/

2018-08-12 06:02:19 UTC

Jews are actually black

2018-08-12 07:07:44 UTC

Checking out some spots at the Vaal Dam to go and repeat the Bedford Level experiment.


2018-08-12 07:09:33 UTC

Elvis is alive

2018-08-12 07:09:50 UTC

Will be doing day and night tests. Got houses at both ends which will make it much easier to spot targets at night across the water.

2018-08-12 07:10:14 UTC

Aliens helped build Stonehenge

2018-08-12 07:13:30 UTC

Beyonce is a clone

2018-08-12 07:14:14 UTC

Thanks I cannot wait to see refraction of light proven

2018-08-12 07:20:12 UTC

Please take air temperature measurements so we can calculate the amount of refraction

2018-08-12 07:21:26 UTC

LOL - Andy Cook (dizzib)
Kernel event ID 41 error


2018-08-12 07:23:40 UTC

Why not tip the line more backward, it will be even longer
The code is fucked, despite this. It can't even calculate my input.
See what happens if I mount my camera 100mm above the ground. Oops


2018-08-12 07:23:40 UTC

This app calculates how much a distant object is obscured by the earth's curvature, and makes the following assumptions:
light travels in straight lines

2018-08-12 07:23:44 UTC


2018-08-12 07:29:52 UTC

You can see 1.1 km far, and the curve change to 3 m drop over the 7km, hu, uh? Hi Pythagoras.

2018-08-12 07:35:41 UTC

DaveGreasley commented on Apr 15
Should you not be accounting for refraction when calculating the hidden height? This is explained by Andrew Young here:


If you aren't going to include this in the calculation then you at least need to state so clearly on the calculator page.

2018-08-12 07:39:09 UTC

amarkulin commented on Aug 30, 2017
Please, could you explain how did you get h1 calculation from the second line?
Where is gone the 2Rh1 from squaring the left side of equation?

2018-08-12 07:39:55 UTC

CryptoPunk commented on Sep 2, 2016
The formula laid out doesn't caluclate distance well, as line of sight is not the measure of distance across a globe. instead I would make the assumption that the distance is an arc segment. This has the added benefit that when d_surface_0 < d_surface_1, the heigh for an obscuring object is calculated.

Example python code

from math import pi,inf,acos,cos
h_1 = 2
d_surf_0 = R*pi

theta_1 = acos(R/(h_1+R))
d_surf_1 = R*theta_1
print("horizon: %.02f" % d_surf_1)
d_surf_2 = d_surf_0 - d_surf_1
theta_2 = d_surf_2/R
if theta_2 > pi/2:
h_2 = inf
h_2 = R/cos(theta_2)-R

print("height: %.02f" % h_2)

2018-08-12 07:52:39 UTC

__Experiment 1: Watch a lunar eclipse__
Things you’ll need: functioning eyes, the moon, and a telescope (optional).

Every now and again, the Earth passes between the moon and the sun, completely blocking its light and casting a shadow across the moon called a lunar eclipse. If you look closely while this happens, you would notice that the Earth’s shadow forms an arc as it creeps across our view of the moon.


2018-08-12 07:53:22 UTC

You might respond, “You’ve shown the Earth is round, but couldn’t it be round, but still flat — a flat disc?” Well, your eyes and telescope would also spot the 3D spherical nature of the moon. The Flat Earth Society does admit that the moon, the sun and other planets are indeed spherical, but claim that the “Earth is not a planet,” and unlike other celestial bodies, is flat.

So let’s ignore the moon for now and examine the other member of the eclipse trifecta: the sun.

2018-08-12 07:56:03 UTC

__Experiment 2:__
The horizon is one of the easiest ways to validate the Earth’s curvature. As the sun dips behind the horizon, it slips from your view in a bottom-up direction. If you watch the sunset while lying on your back, and then hop up as the last rays disappear, then you should be able to see the sunset again.

2018-08-12 08:00:27 UTC


2018-08-12 08:00:42 UTC

Flat Earther concepts don’t stack up, especially when placed against modern technology like global air travel…or telescopes.

Instead, their ideas require leaps of faith that far outpace a 5’0 teenager stretching his fingers toward a rim.

Fake science
But when science experiments are performed incorrectly they can appear to give the opposite result. If they are shared through social media, these false ideas can be spread quickly with no one to point out their flaws. One common example is the Bedford Level experiment, a form of which was first carried out in 1838 and used to "prove" the Earth was flat for over 30 years before an explanation was found.

2018-08-12 08:03:16 UTC

This experiment involved placing a marker at a set height at either end of a canal about six miles long. If the Earth is round, then one marker should appear lower than the other when viewed at the same time through a telescope because the furthest marker would have fallen away with the curvature of the Earth. But it was reported that the markers are the same height, suggesting the Earth is actually flat. Modern day Flat Earth theorists still quote this experiment.

2018-08-12 08:04:10 UTC

The problem is this doesn't take into account the optical effect of the air over the intervening water, which bends or "refracts" the light as it travels from the marker to the telescope and makes it look like they are the same height. The solution is to use multiple markers along the length of the canal which, when observed, all appear to be at different heights.

Perhaps the most impressive experiment that even schools can do today is to send a camera up in a high-altitude balloon. The footage will show that from a high-enough vantage point you can see the curvature of the Earth. This is what Mike Hughes will find if he ever makes his rocket work.

Ultimately, arguing on the internet is not the best way forward for any scientific endeavour. We need to provide the means for people to test these theories themselves and to understand the results they get.

2018-08-12 08:08:14 UTC

50) If the Earth were truly a globe, the Arctic and Antarctic polar regions and areas of comparable latitude North and South of the equator should share similar conditions and characteristics such as comparable temperatures, seasonal changes, length of daylight, plant and animal life. In reality, however, the Arctic/Antarctic regions and areas of comparable latitude North/South of the equator differ greatly in many ways entirely inconsistent with the ball model and entirely consistent with the flat model.


2018-08-12 08:12:44 UTC

50) obliquity

Earth has seasons because our planet’s axis of rotation is tilted at an angle of 23.5 degrees relative to our orbital plane – the plane of Earth’s orbit around the sun.

Over the course of a year, the angle of tilt does not vary. In other words, Earth’s northern axis is always pointing the same direction in space. At this time, that direction is more or less toward the star we call Polaris, the North Star. But the orientation of Earth’s tilt with respect to the sun – our source of light and warmth – does change as we orbit the sun. In other words, the Northern Hemisphere is oriented toward the sun for half of the year and away from the sun for the other half. The same is true of the Southern Hemisphere.

When the Northern Hemisphere is oriented toward the sun, that region of Earth warms because of the corresponding increase in solar radiation. The sun’s rays are striking that part of Earth at a more direct angle. It’s summer.

When the Northern Hemisphere is oriented away from the sun, the sun’s rays are less direct, and that part of Earth cools. It’s winter.

Seasons in the southern hemisphere occur at opposite times of the year from those in the northern hemisphere. Northern summer = southern winter.

The tilt in Earth’s axis is strongly influenced by the way mass is distributed over the planet. Large amounts of land mass and ice sheets in the northern hemisphere make Earth top-heavy. An analogy for obliquity is imagining what would happen if you were to spin a ball with a piece of bubble gum stuck near the top. The extra weight would cause the ball to tilt when spun.

2018-08-12 08:14:27 UTC

51) Antarctica is by far the coldest place on Earth with an average annual temperature of approximately -57 degrees Fahrenheit, and a record low of -135.8! The average annual temperature at the North Pole, however, is a comparatively warm 4 degrees. Throughout the year, temperatures in the Antarctic vary less than half the amount at comparable Arctic latitudes. The Northern Arctic region enjoys moderately warm summers and manageable winters, whereas the Southern Antarctic region never even warms enough to melt the perpetual snow and ice. On a tilting, wobbling, ball-Earth spinning uniformly around the Sun, Arctic and Antarctic temperatures and seasons should not vary so greatly.

2018-08-12 08:16:01 UTC

Same as #50

2018-08-12 08:16:07 UTC

52) Iceland at 65 degrees North latitude is home to 870 species of native plants and abundant various animal life. Compare this with the Isle of Georgia at just 54 degrees South latitude where there are only 18 species of native plants and animal life is almost non-existent. The same latitude as Canada or England in the North where dense forests of various tall trees abound, the infamous Captain Cook wrote of Georgia that he was unable to find a single shrub large enough to make a toothpick! Cook wrote, “Not a tree was to be seen. The lands which lie to the south are doomed by nature to perpetual frigidness - never to feel the warmth of the sun’s rays; whose horrible and savage aspect I have not words to describe. Even marine life is sparse in certain tracts of vast extent, and the sea-bird is seldom observed flying over such lonely wastes. The contrasts between the limits of organic life in Arctic and Antarctic zones is very remarkable and significant.”


2018-08-12 08:17:35 UTC

I wonder what effect ocean currents have on a continent? mmm.. 🤔

2018-08-12 08:21:52 UTC

“Why is the North Pole warmer than the South Pole? I changed it each year, to confuse students who looked at last year’s exam; “Why is the South Pole colder than the North Pole?” Most people have no idea about the geography of the Poles and assume they are climatically the same. They are literally polar opposites and that is important in understanding the significance for global climate.

The major driving force for atmospheric circulation is the temperature difference between the Poles and the Equator – the gradient. Theoretically, maximum heating at the Equator and minimum at the Poles creates a single cell circulation system (Figure 1).


2018-08-12 08:22:18 UTC

Figure 1

Rotation is the major perturbation to this theoretical base, followed by surface differences, particularly land/water ratios.

Earth’s elliptical orbit round the Sun is a small factor in determining the temperature difference. Two important points are perihelion, when the earth is closest, and aphelion when it is furthest away. (Figure 2)


2018-08-12 08:22:50 UTC

Figure 2

The current situation is as follows.

The Earth is closest to the Sun or at its Perihelion two weeks after the December solstice and farthest from the Sun or Aphelion, two weeks after the June Solstice. In 2015, the Earth will reach its Aphelion at 19:41 (7:41 pm) UTC on July 6, 2015.

All this changes as part of the larger Milankovitch Effect, but it means that at present the Earth is closer during the Northern Hemisphere winter and further away during the Southern Hemisphere Winter.

At the risk of stirring up solar specialists, here is one estimate of the insolation difference.

Aphelion Insolation = [(149,597,870.7 km) / (152,098,232 km)] = 0.9674

Perihelion Insolation = [(149,597,870.7 km) / (147,098,290 km)] = 1.0343

It’s approximately a 6.5 percent variance, which is a minor difference but one amplified by other factors.

2018-08-12 08:25:05 UTC
2018-08-12 08:54:53 UTC

thats a kids book

2018-08-12 08:55:04 UTC

if you base evidence of flat earth

2018-08-12 08:55:08 UTC

off a kids book

2018-08-12 08:55:24 UTC

then you have no right to continue this conversation

2018-08-12 08:55:35 UTC

as all your other info is but improper

2018-08-12 09:02:33 UTC

@4rvp Agreed. It proves @Deejay from Earth is a lair and fake

2018-08-12 09:02:58 UTC

Probably paid to respond to messages here

2018-08-12 09:04:08 UTC


2018-08-12 09:05:28 UTC

By some branch of NASA in order to try to get us to defy all evidence, physicists, atronomers, and aeronautical engineers both independent and members of government run space agencies to try and defy us into believing a flat earth so that way we get to bring more popularity towards NASA and other government run space agencies for free.

2018-08-12 09:08:07 UTC

Exactly just how the neo-left of America in essence is providing more and more support for the far-right groups due to their excessive/superfluous condemnation of actions/speeches without any credible evidence or hunches, based on the sole fact that they have a different political viewpoint

2018-08-12 09:20:26 UTC

And I'll leave this here, once again, before you make the claim that im some liberal. I was pro-trump during the election, and will be voting for my republican congressmen and senator. I've been arrested for a hate crime against a man of black descent. So, go ahead and call me a liberal, see how true it is when you're on your deathbed with no one around it, because you spend all yourtime arguing with 18 year olds over the internet because of your pseuodo-scientific claims, same with the fake electrical engineer lugnut that is the member protestant


2018-08-12 09:59:09 UTC

Aye, he left

2018-08-12 10:07:27 UTC

Never forget


2018-08-12 10:10:55 UTC

Ag nee, ons maatjie is weg.
Ek gaan volgende maand Filippyne toe, en die vlug tussen Dubai na Manila is in 9 ure daglig. Het so uitgesien om 'n video te maak teen 35'000ft of hoer, en onder sy neus te druk.

2018-08-12 10:40:34 UTC

@4rvp For interest sake here I am


2018-08-12 10:47:12 UTC

Just finished reading all of this lol

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