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@Penkop , you give the topic...I will respond in kind

Ditsem! @Brennladen, you just advanced to level 2!

So if somebody decides to illegally enter your land/premises or erect a shack what are you allowed to do?

Call the cops or security?

You turn them into cheese.

A lot of police stations simply wont get involved because they say it is a political matter

yes i didnt say it would be worth while, but you are allowed to call them none the less'

In my opinion (fuck what the law states)...expropriate those individuals!!! 😁

Yeah i only believe in an objective law, no need for man made laws governed by emotions and political correctness.

At what point can you say, as a tax payer and law abiding citizen, the SAP must keep me safe and protect my rights but they are obviously not doing it so I need to take the responsibility onto myself to keep my property and my loved ones safe

Why can't we just turn them into cheese?

Ditsem! @crazyBoer, you just advanced to level 6!

Correction...SAPS, South Africa Police SERVICE...it's clearly stated as a service and not a right / privilage

Make sure you have a large enough network of people to help you sort them out and protect you against SAPS

If all the "boers" or "whites" can LEARN TO WORK TOGETTHER...the land-grabbers do not stand a chance in hell

Citezens arrest? If you as a single individual can manage to arrest 20 land occupiers. What do you do with them. The SAP will not get involved so they will simply release them and probably end up arresting you instead

https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/no-need-to-wait-for-land-hearings-to-end-lawful-expropriation-can-start-now-lamola-20180720

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Hopefully there are no witnesses around. That is all Im gonna say...

I "citizen's arrested" 2x individuals myself 3 months ago for theft from our business premises. They got taken to the Police Station AND nothing happened thereafter

Are these "DETECTIVES" really going to forensically figure out what happened??? I think not

Double standards

Headache of note!

Or rather a ball ache

The pendulum will swing back, always does.

But Joeliaaasss knows this. There is not much we as citizens can do. He wants us to feel helpless

Where is the line in the sand?

Well, as a government offical (paid with taxpayer's money)...scratching your balls for 9 hours a day (your shift hours), I can see how one can develop "ball-ache" 😁

@Karooboer Good question, which needs an answer... shall we reason about it?

Im hoping that this monster he has created will devour him. The poor people dont need land. They need housing and basic services. If you take a poor person from Kayelitcha and give him 10 Hectare of land. How is that going to improve his life? He will end up selling that land , spending the money and in 6 months time back in his shack in Kayelicha.

Ditsem! @Penkop, you just advanced to level 3!

@Brennladen sars official was paid 2.5mil per year to read newspapers. TrueStory

Now, if you give him a house with working water, electricity and toilet you immediately improve his life. Just my humble opinion.

To think only 4million taxpayers is what keeps the wheel turning in this country.

I want to see what they do when farmer A says “no sorry, I am not giving it up” and 100 others help to block the access to farm? They gonna shoot them?

@Karooboerif the costitution is ammended to allow EWC then the police and army can remove you by force.

Karoo that is exactly the excuse they are waiting for to outright kill us. If a single farmer reacts for example shoots a land occupier to defend his own life they will see it as an act of war. All news around the world will say Boers are killing the poor black people again

Imagine FOX news with footage of SA army shooting up a bunch of white farmers while forcefully expropriating their land? I think world knows more than to believe that story @Penkop

I see it that with the popularity of conservatism rising fast, time in History is not on the side of communists

@Karooboer you will be seen as an illegal occupier so you can be removed by force.

Just because they can, doesnt mean they should... people arent stupid, they can see the constitution was changed to commit and justify evil

Anyway those people that he is promising a happy heaven after the EWC will eventually figure out that once again they voted for Joeliaaasss and CR but now they are not delivering on the promises they made before the election. Only the top officials are benefitting from EWC and the poor people remain poor , even poorer than before. I hope it will not be too late for my people by then

I also hope those people will then go knocking on Joeliaaass’ and CR’s doors with a tyre in one hand and lighter in the other, as is their custom

This country will erupt all over once they start using force to remove farmers, that is guaranteed. Hence I think they will use the Venazuela model or the BEE model, slowly by starting with unused land.

Its all a political game. ANC promises to keep the votes and keep them in power.

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They opened a door here which they will not be able to close. They have to push through.

Highly doubt people wil respond if a farmer is forcefully removed. Look at farm murders,only one protest ever.

At the expense of SA

Breaks my heart

All farmers will suddenly realize the reality and people in town and black land owners

They will respond I am sure of that

Expropriation is nothing new. Many farms have been bought by the anc. But the farmers get market related prices so they dont mind selling. The anc have 4500 farms sitting dormant currently.

Yeah i think when push comes to shove, the other 2 thirds will act accordingly

Once they start the rest will see open season

While land occupations where ongoing, the Government of Zimbabwe put into place the Fast Track Land Reform Programme on 15 July 2000; notably this programme came into being after the Constitution was amended in April of 2000 and the Land Acquisition Act of 1992 being amended in May 2000. This programme was justified with the aim of “fast tracking” land reform (land acquisition and resettlement) in order to drastically increase poverty reduction and to stimulate economic development and growth. In the wake of the programme’s announcement, land occupations didn’t cease, but rather increased in prevalence, now being granted a an additional layer of legitimacy.

@Conscious Caracal which is why I think it will happen spontaneously. This is like a balloon waiting to burst

I remember watching sabc news in 2000 when the farmers literally fled with the clothes on their backs while the farms were burned in the background.

any updates with the khoisan secession?

@Gonzo they at least had a place to flee to, we don’t.

@plasma Nada, as expected. Like a chain letter scam...

ah fucking publicity stunt

Exploiting people's hopes.

i dont like that kang anymore.

The best plan is to get security groups and networks to interconnect, nationally. Farms patrol groups, town networks, Afriforum networks ex. Then at least people can mobilize and react as necessary

@Karooboer the constitution needs to be ammended first,cant do anything if its not set in place. Thats why slow puncture is so vocal about it to get people radicalised and on his team for when the anc fails to push it through. Then we will see violence like never before.

what i find kinda odd is that ya'll aint racist as shit

race and iq

etc etc

@Gonzo so we know what to prepare for then

@plasma??

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@plasma because that is counter productive, won’t help us shit

Ya sure? What about just banding together and taking a piece of land like they are?

i mean im ignorant and stupid on the topic to be honest.

@plasma Because white SA culture developed in very close proximity to black culture; we don't have time for *trivial* race tensions or racist rhetoric like many Americans or Europeans. Maybe I'm just biased as South Afriican. Americans are way more blatantly racist then us.

@plasma the “real” war is between them, they are still tribal as ever. They use us and land as an attempt to unify themselves, but as soon as order collapses they will attack each other aswell.

@Karooboer if we didnt have civil war when hani was murdered in 93' i doubt we wil see a full scale civil war all over the country. But never say never,history has shown it can happen.

For example, making a lot of noise regarding race and IQ isn't gonna help us jackshit.

@Gonzo back then we had a strong army and police, now we don’t

If anything, it'll be incredibly counter productive

@Karooboer exactly like america the most crime is still black on black

@Conscious Caracal right they arent smart enough to understand their own stupidity....

What about Suid Landers and Simon Roche, I heard that shit is fake. But he kinda made me learn about this first

@plasma With all due respect, white South Africans understand black people and culture a lot better than Americans - in my opinion.

yeah id bet you do, but NA blacks are different form African blacks.

10% white genese

What you call "KILLER AFRICANISED BEES" we just call bees.

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@Conscious Caracal I get that we shouldnt autistically screah about Race and IQ but surely it offers a reasonable explanation for the high inequality in this country? Better than 'muh white privilege' arguments that are usually levelled against us.

Most white americans are like dodo birds

Good luck injecting that topic into SA discourse, @HoppeanSnake_ZA

....and having a calm, reasonable discussion.

We really need that discussion.

@HoppeanSnake_ZA Yeah no point in circlejerking about it but i feel that race and iq is generally accepted here

Really really do.