yeah but i mean the before statement of "Culture that is too weak dies out"

I agree that culture is what a group needs. Europeans needed western culutre becase they lived in Europea and Africans needed african culutre becasue they lived in africa. Europe and Africa are different environments so they created different races though subspeciation.

societies that are too weak die out

Culture is what a society produces

Art/morals/ways of life, is all culture

I was speaking pretty deep in metaphor.

comparing the evolution of culture to the evolution of species.

oh

A society is a racial construct.

no its not

a society is an environmental construct

You see what I mean through that, right Jay?

i do, but i disagree partially, because culture can outlive its people

I mean, a skeleton outlives the organism...

Different environments created different races so it's a big of nature and nurture.

well true in that regard Rye, i'll concede 😛

But, I mean, if you've got a culture that sacrifices it's young, it's not going to survive very long, is it?

those two aren't connected Aussie

the white race spawned both Socialism/Communism (In Russia) and Capitalism (in the west)

they were created due to the environment

Communism was created by Jews mate.

so was the theory of relativity, whats your point?

it was created in the environment, not its race

hell, NUKES were created by Jews

if anything, we should adopt jewish culture

If western culutre can only exsit in some environments then why dose it exist in every white country around the world?

It... doesn't...

It dose down here mate.

because our environment allowed it to thrive, and since it has proven to be the best method, MOST white countries adopt it

Oh, you mean english speaking countries.

Do you think Australia has a similar enivronment to Europe?

in America where westeren culture was developped it was due to freedom, people just said "go nuts, its a big country find a place and knock yourself out"

Australians are Europeans.

@Dr.Wol And they did. and frequently others as well.

yes Australians are a nationality of people descended from Europeans.

yuo realise "Environment" is not a concept thats bound to grass, trees and water right?

cultural freedom is an environment

economic freedom

religious freedom

Right, and so when Australia was founded in 1901, in the twilight of monarchy, well after western society had been founded in America and began to make it's way back to England, Australia might've decided to form itself based on the principles of a similar english speaking country that had proven itself a world power by that point for over 100 years.

And no, jayred

when I refer to the environment in which a culture forms

I'm referring to the developments of neighboring cultures.

European culture fed off of it's neighbors.

Just as asian culture and african culture did

just as native American culture did.

i know, i was refering to Aussie who implied that Australia was westernised not because of the "dry land" that is Australia but because of European colonists

There are differences, some subtle, some not

But, while he's trying to frame it as a 'magic dirt' argument, it's really not.

he's not, he's trying to frame it that White people came to australia and "bam" western society baby

That's not what I got from it

I was under the impression that he meant that Australia developed similarly so far from United States and Europe

So western culture must just be in our genes.

I guess similar to your interpretation.

I'm spotting slight nuance in our interpretations though

but look, none of us here denies that white, western culture is clearly the best we have in the world right now

But to say its a product of white people is just stupid, Proof -> Look at SJW's, look at the Left/California etc

Its the principles and ideas that make or break a society

Capitalism made the west rich, powerful and free

Socialism ruined every country it touched
the SJW's and such are all socialists, thats why it doesn't work

Most of "modern" africa is socialist, tahts why they're backwards

and the majority of SJW's are white rich kids who are also white supremacists, but with a guilt complex

We don't need an ethnic cleansing.

We need to bring back capitalism.

And let those who don't wish to participate, leave if they like.

and the biggest reason for socialism is that it allows for a central control of the nation

and central control gives a few people a LOOOOT of power, and that allows selfish corrupt individuals to ruin a nation to persuit their own personal wealth

Capitalism is great because it divides power across the self-made strong, not those given power by the state

Hence you can't easily generate a dictatorship because the power isn't centralised

he left btw

But yeah, you put it quite well.

Essentially, Meritocracy = Capitalism. The reason Capitalism is the best core economic system is because it's a societal system that actually reflects the base rules of nature.

yes

But a free market must also be maintained to preserve it, and we're lacking in that department.

but it also motivates

If you want more, you have to work harder

in socialism its the opposite, being weak is a benefit for you, being strong will limit you because you have to give your extra to others

who because they're weak won't be able to return the favor, so why bother? why not join them and gain benefits from others and just sit around and be lazy

you can see that principle in play in the welfare system

People don't try to escape it because they'll loose their welfare

they rather complain to get more and do nothing

because in the west they're given enough to survive, theres no need to escape it

I don't think they should be left to die, necessarily.

I do think supporting those with disabilities IS in our best interest as a society

being left to die is a strong word

But able bodied people that just "sit around" and don't want to work shouldn't be given just a handout because the system is lenient

The term I turn to is 'comfort in poverty'

yes

and i agree, people who are in dire due to disabilities or real misfortune i feel okay helping

But stuff like, people who just eat all day and turn fat then demand disability money
smokers who need extra health-care

freeloaders who demand money and spit on other people

no, they have got to go

i mean when that migrant crisis happened in 2015, some refugees who came to the netherlands complained because they were given a bottle of water at the refugee center, not a bottle of wine.

Like really? i'd beat them senseless with a hammer if i was in charge, just for that

and 'left to die' is a strong word?

I retract that statement

realizing that it was attached to the line above.

well, turning fat, smoking or just couch-potatoing are self-made situations

I can agree. -_-

I mean, kind of.

i know, fat isn't always a food issue, there are some health conditions that make you fat

Naah, I'm referring to the inability to find work.

I've been working for a delivery service as of late, and it's super crappy, but it's all I can find at the moment.

I used to make 19/h in DC before I moved back to my podunk town

well, that would sort itself out if you remove the welfare system

then those bottom/freeloaders won't come here, and work illegally for some extra

meaning those jobs need to be filled by legal workers

This service I'm lucky to be making 5/h. Yeah, I said 2.5 below minimum wage.

ouch

but i mean like, stuff those illegal mexicans do in America, where they collect welfare (which costs tax money) and then paint fences on the side without paying taxes over it.

minimum wage labor etc

those sort of jobs will then open up to the public

Oh, you've got it slightly wrong...

i do?

Where are you from, jay

Netherlands

ah, got it

So, in the United States, we've got labor laws.

Minimum wage is $7.25/h

but, you see, that only applies to... LEGAL employees....

yes

when they do the whole 'terk muh jerb' meme

they're referring to illegal immigrants who come in, accept less than minimum wage for work, and live 8 people to a room in a house somewhere