Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-02-27 08:45:04 UTC  

but look, none of us here denies that white, western culture is clearly the best we have in the world right now

But to say its a product of white people is just stupid, Proof -> Look at SJW's, look at the Left/California etc

Its the principles and ideas that make or break a society

Capitalism made the west rich, powerful and free

Socialism ruined every country it touched
the SJW's and such are all socialists, thats why it doesn't work

Most of "modern" africa is socialist, tahts why they're backwards

2018-02-27 08:45:43 UTC  

and the majority of SJW's are white rich kids who are also white supremacists, but with a guilt complex

2018-02-27 08:46:41 UTC  

We don't need an ethnic cleansing.

2018-02-27 08:46:49 UTC  

We need to bring back capitalism.

2018-02-27 08:47:04 UTC  

And let those who don't wish to participate, leave if they like.

2018-02-27 08:47:42 UTC  

and the biggest reason for socialism is that it allows for a central control of the nation

and central control gives a few people a LOOOOT of power, and that allows selfish corrupt individuals to ruin a nation to persuit their own personal wealth

Capitalism is great because it divides power across the self-made strong, not those given power by the state

Hence you can't easily generate a dictatorship because the power isn't centralised

2018-02-27 08:48:27 UTC  

he left btw

2018-02-27 08:48:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/417966278775406593/nice.jpg

2018-02-27 08:48:49 UTC  

But yeah, you put it quite well.

2018-02-27 08:51:02 UTC  

Essentially, Meritocracy = Capitalism. The reason Capitalism is the best core economic system is because it's a societal system that actually reflects the base rules of nature.

2018-02-27 08:51:20 UTC  

yes

2018-02-27 08:51:50 UTC  

But a free market must also be maintained to preserve it, and we're lacking in that department.

2018-02-27 08:51:55 UTC  

but it also motivates

If you want more, you have to work harder

in socialism its the opposite, being weak is a benefit for you, being strong will limit you because you have to give your extra to others

2018-02-27 08:52:28 UTC  

who because they're weak won't be able to return the favor, so why bother? why not join them and gain benefits from others and just sit around and be lazy

2018-02-27 08:53:08 UTC  

you can see that principle in play in the welfare system

People don't try to escape it because they'll loose their welfare

they rather complain to get more and do nothing

2018-02-27 08:53:17 UTC  

because in the west they're given enough to survive, theres no need to escape it

2018-02-27 08:53:56 UTC  

I don't think they should be left to die, necessarily.

2018-02-27 08:54:25 UTC  

I do think supporting those with disabilities IS in our best interest as a society

2018-02-27 08:54:43 UTC  

being left to die is a strong word

But able bodied people that just "sit around" and don't want to work shouldn't be given just a handout because the system is lenient

2018-02-27 08:55:09 UTC  

The term I turn to is 'comfort in poverty'

2018-02-27 08:55:14 UTC  

yes

2018-02-27 08:56:12 UTC  

and i agree, people who are in dire due to disabilities or real misfortune i feel okay helping

But stuff like, people who just eat all day and turn fat then demand disability money
smokers who need extra health-care

freeloaders who demand money and spit on other people

no, they have got to go

2018-02-27 08:57:19 UTC  

i mean when that migrant crisis happened in 2015, some refugees who came to the netherlands complained because they were given a bottle of water at the refugee center, not a bottle of wine.

Like really? i'd beat them senseless with a hammer if i was in charge, just for that

2018-02-27 08:57:37 UTC  

and 'left to die' is a strong word?

2018-02-27 08:58:09 UTC  

I retract that statement

2018-02-27 08:58:14 UTC  

realizing that it was attached to the line above.

2018-02-27 08:58:17 UTC  

well, turning fat, smoking or just couch-potatoing are self-made situations

2018-02-27 08:58:18 UTC  

I can agree. -_-

2018-02-27 08:58:34 UTC  

I mean, kind of.

2018-02-27 08:58:55 UTC  

i know, fat isn't always a food issue, there are some health conditions that make you fat

2018-02-27 08:59:09 UTC  

Naah, I'm referring to the inability to find work.

2018-02-27 08:59:31 UTC  

I've been working for a delivery service as of late, and it's super crappy, but it's all I can find at the moment.

2018-02-27 08:59:50 UTC  

I used to make 19/h in DC before I moved back to my podunk town

2018-02-27 09:00:02 UTC  

well, that would sort itself out if you remove the welfare system

then those bottom/freeloaders won't come here, and work illegally for some extra

meaning those jobs need to be filled by legal workers

2018-02-27 09:00:14 UTC  

This service I'm lucky to be making 5/h. Yeah, I said 2.5 below minimum wage.

2018-02-27 09:00:20 UTC  

ouch

2018-02-27 09:01:04 UTC  

but i mean like, stuff those illegal mexicans do in America, where they collect welfare (which costs tax money) and then paint fences on the side without paying taxes over it.

minimum wage labor etc

2018-02-27 09:01:20 UTC  

those sort of jobs will then open up to the public

2018-02-27 09:01:26 UTC  

Oh, you've got it slightly wrong...

2018-02-27 09:01:29 UTC  

i do?

2018-02-27 09:01:31 UTC  

Where are you from, jay