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is this even shitposting when it feels literally true
@RyeNorth lol yeah, officer teabag'd him. what a fucking retard, *bro*
As if military action justifies vaporizing civilians
It was either the west Nuke two cities or the soviet union would have gotten more land in Asia.
Wasnโt it either nukes or ground invasion?
I'm usually more of a "let things sort themselves out" sorta guy myself, but i completely believe the bombing was an ethical thing to do.
The ground invasion had a chance of failure and catastrophic casualties on both sides.
Military casualties
Yes but Japan would have surrendered a few months after if America did Nuke Japan even if Amercia didn't lead an invasion
There's always civilian casualties in war
That doesn't mean you can deliberately target them
It did.
If America didn't then how much more land would the Soviet Union have gotten?
Doesn't now, of course. our LOAC and ROE are vastly different.
The Soviet Union collapsed by itself anyway
More then 50 years latter.
60 years later
And I wouldn't just consider Japan as Russian territory if that happened. China, too.
More than it is, by communism's control
How does that translate to "leveling cities is ethical"?
I mean if Japan wasn't nuked the war wold have continued for a few more months giving the Soviet Union more time to take more land From Japan. What if they had enough time to take all of Korea?
Then Korea would've been part of the Soviet Union for 60 years, I guess?
So?
Depends on what you think is ethical. Are things better in the Pacific and Asia without Japan or Soviet rule, or would they be better off?
Yes and that would mean the Communist world would have been bigger which is a bad thing for the non-communist world.
I support the nukes. At the least, it ended the war for Japan
A prolonged war would have been bad for everyone involved
It was necessary to prevent the Soviets gaining more land.
I bet Tim supports the nukes. Koreans hate the Japanese.
I see. A situational ally of ours might take more land, so we need to kill a ton of noncombatants in a completely different country
Pretty much.
I refer to the meme that started this topic.
Don't get me wrong, Pearl Harbor was *also* unethical
Unprovoked attacks tend to be
the japanese population was trained to die trying to protect their land from invasion, we saw that behavure from the invasion of okinawa. the major japanese islands would have been even more martyristic than that. the nukes were used to express to the japanese government the full extent at which the united states would take to end the war by unleashing a weapon like the world had never seen before. if the nukes hadent actually had that effect we wouldent have used any more afterwords and infact the nukes didint actually contribute to as much death per square mile as our firebombing did
I don't think the firebombing from all sides of the war was all that great either
its war
the world wars are seen as terrible for reasons
Yes, the aforementioned 20 million dead sounds pretty unethical to me. Doubtful they were all military.
its not because they were fun highly chivilrous and ethical combats
And perhaps you're not realizing the impact guerilla tactics have in a war. They were seen as unethical then.
you had nazi germany on one side who were out to claim an area of the world and exterminate all those who they found outside the standard of being "german" on the other side you have japan cutting swaths through china with an idea that they are the chosen people master race over all others and destined to rule all other people and exterminating any who did not concent
extreme problems call for extreme messures
I don't claim to be an expert on this, I just don't like militaries targeting civilians
Anyway, I have to put my phone away cause I'm going into a theatre
every military in ww2 targeted civilians
I don't know many who would love a good civilian bombing, so I understand that
one could only argue that the allys did so the least
Mmhm
So every military was wrong, and the allies were the least wrong
Such is life.
most of the time our bombing target civilian military suppliment structures like munitions factorys, rail roads, airports, naval ports, and bases of opperations
Thats why Hiroshima was targeted, actually. It wasn't just a random pin on a map.
That, and it would have less casualties than targeting Tokyo. I don't think the Japanese would have forgiven us if we did that lol
Also, it would have caused more fighting. Its like shooting them in the thigh, and then say if you dont surrender, you bleed out or get shot in the head.
Japan did and the usa not only bandaged them they gave them a complete makeover
As shitty as targeting civs is, its a legit millitary tactic.
If the US nukes tokyo the high command dies
If the high command dies its unlikely the japanese surrender
new metokur
Two nukes created anime
Imagine if NK got two nukes as well
anime was already being used before the war started
there are a couple of pre war drawings of various Imperial Japanese Navy ships as girls
What a dumb cunt lol
"Even if women say 'kill all men', they will remain protected by a system built in their favour"
Literally true
She meant that "they" as "men" though =p
thats why she's a dumb cunt, cuz she meant to say the opposite
Yep ๐
much woke
a strap on is so much weaker than a dick
Today Trump called for the military to form a new branch.
The Space Force.
It will be Star Wars done right.
Game over man, game over
it'll be the colonial marines from Aliens
hey, if we want to get back to the moon, or really ensure our species survival by getting off this rock, i say the best way is to tell the government there is an enemy on the moon, or on mars. Or that the ruskies are gonna build a base there, and we will be there in no time flat.
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isint nasa a military org?
Hmm, so he can be the god emperor of the imperium?
Space race suppremacy
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