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I like how the people getting on trump for this allegation are the same people that want to smash monogamy or whatever, too
Or are suppoerters of actual rapists
weve like 5 presidents in the last 60 years that have sex scandles so its really just meaningless at this point
Its probably aimed at their perceived typical republican. Puritanical and moral.
Still, should trump sue them?
Yes
Probably wouldn't hurt.
Like I used to hear jokes about how litigious Americans are in paticular, but libel should be fucking dealt with, especially how anyone can spout anything of with no damagebto oneself.
Unless it's against islam, and you're in a country that's not the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2isZwhoZon8
Tim's new post. It's really great.
The end of that URL almost looks like "Who's on 8", which of course made me think of the "Who's on 1st" skit
lol
I am in the middle of having the exact argument in the recent video about how Trump (allegedly) calling countries shitholes is somehow racist. People are so blinded by emotion that simple facts elude them. Very sad.
Facts are racist. And well, even if he did actually say it, is he wrong?
No he's not wrong.
I ended up calling the guy a racist because he assumed people from those countries were shitholes instead of just the country being a shithole.
And then id ask, are you making the assumption he called them shitholes since they are populated with blacks.
Well directed at the other guy
Already answered lol.
That was basically my argument.
He thought Trump mentioned Norway just because they are white.
Lol and we are the racist ones? He saw color in everything.
He also said the "Muslim ban" was racist because apparently muslims are a race now.
kek
I'm really enjoying it because he keeps doubling down.
I thought it was a joke people like that existed. But the theres flat earthers
I talked to a guy today who thought illegals shouldn't be deported so yeah people like that exist.
No explanation why?
He says we can't send them back becauase they'd be killed.
I mean to argue with someone using moralist arguments. You have to use moralist retorts.
Well at least he cant claim the us is a terrible place.
We weren't talking about the US.
Ask him if Mexico deserves to be a great country or not, a place where people didn't have to flee from.
And yeah you can't fight emotions with logic sadly.
And that if the wall should be built, if anything, for humanitarian reasons.
I said if people leave they lose the incentive to make their home countries better and it becomes an endless loop.
I thought jordan peterson said it best.
And if we keep taking their best/brightest/smartest people, how can we expect those countries to develop?
Sometimes you need emotional arguments to counter someone who uses them
Well that argument doesn't work with illegals @JadenFrostwolf.
Why?
Because you don't vet illegals.
Could be getting anyone.
Oh, the 'smartest' people comment was for legal immigrants.
The 'wall' comment was for illegal ones.
That's more an argument against immigration in general.
Ah ok.
Yeah, it is. lol
Is this person under the impression trump supporters hate legal immigrants?
Most of them know trump is from a family of immigrants
Probabaly but I didn't ask. The conversation is a bit of a shitstorm at the moment.
Eh, how are rhey like now?
He's going on about how the travel ban was unconstitutional and just because the 9th ruled it as such made it true.
I'd point out the major other travel bans that previous presidents did
Did that.
Anything more than its different
He's not listening at this point so the whole debate is probably moot. Just fun to watch.
Yeah, no arguing with people like that.
Rule one: you never debate someone to convince then
Them*
Maybe he should visit Arizona sometime.
You do it to convince the fence sitters watching
That's true. lol
Yeah im sure some people jumped the fence after watching that.
Legally though.
Debate is also a skill, so you can have the right stance and points, but deliver them incorrectly.
Yeah that's true.
It's important to keep peoples minds open.
Like in the whole Sargon vs Spencer thing.
What a dumpster fire that was....
Heres the thing as well, learn how to argue like they do and other people will realise how stupid those arguments sound.
Terrible debate but I did learn a lot from it @JadenFrostwolf.
Yeah.
If he says the 9th circuit makes it unconstitutional. Point out daca is unconstitutional for the same reason.
Ok I brought it up and confirmed that he thinks Trump supporters hate immigrants.
Which obviously will need to be clarified as illegal immigrants.
Figures.
I keep saying we and have to correct it. Not american, but if I were, im backing trump.
And I can say with full confidence, vetting is just as logical as you vetting who you decide can come to any party you hold.
So now we are talking DACA which he thinks is constitutional and I posted a video of Obama admitting that what he did was unconstitutional. Probably didn't even watch it. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw4BIWiWyQg>
im sorry but every time i hear daca
i cant not here a greenskin saying dakka
You wanna talk unconstitutional, forget CA and NY gun control. Maryland is where the real violating of the 2nd happens
chicago is just as bad
And Detroit.
I used to live in Maryland. Glad I moved.
Its almost as if there is some kinda trend...
Maryland bans the AR-15 by name, and considers any weapon that you cannot 'distinguish from the banned weapon within 10 seconds while -blindfolded-' as copies and therefore, banned.
But surely it can not ne true that gun tooting homoganous comunities have....less crime?
That would be insane and racist
Mention whar AR stands for
Armalite?
Ya
btw each time its a mass shooting spree im thankful it isnt with a double barrel shotgun
5.56 leaves alot of wounded but alive humans
12 guage in a confined space does not...
and an unskilled shooter can use it acruately and reload effectively once every few seconds
it would be horrorific
alot of people whom dont know fire arms automaticly think a fully auto ar15 is deadly and that older weapons are less so
I remember a friend of mine having to tell a leftist that a bolt action is WAY deadlier then a ar15
People are afraid of things they don't understand.
bruh a old lever action winchester would be terrifying
to speak nothing of a 10 guage
say it with me folks, big hole nothing.
where as with a 5.56 or a 2.23 you got tiny hole little hole
Horrorificly buck tends to not over penetrate which leads to larger trama
people need to think more about the mechanics of the firearm and not the scary barrels and outsides of the gun
And the whole 60% of all gundeaths used to preech how unsafe guns are, are suicides
People also need to realize the reason more people today do not die in warfare like they did in all of history is becuase of the REALLY big guns
nukes
Nukes and weapons have done more to save life and prevent conflict and suffering then they ever have
>.> imma get off my soap box now
Because warfare *totally* wasn't a thing before guns, right?
No one ever killed each other, with anything, or for anything, before the gun, right?
what i mean is.
I was agreeing with you. lol
It's almost like guns don't kill people. People kill people.
after the advent of the nuke, Mutually assured destruction has prevented war
Yeah.
That is entirely untrue @CreativeRealms
Bullets kill people
ffs you leftists fuckers never get it right omg
He was also agreeing with you. lol
You pull the trigger on your freedom launcher
liberty is rung
and then the bullet goes into the bad guy
I know i was being silly =p
^
Violence has solved more conflict then any other force in history until nukes and fully auto rifles came along
now we talk alot.
nukes havent been arround long enough for their true danger to be realized it comes in the form of terrorism using homemade ones in a backpack
Eh yes and no.
Their existence and being held by state actors has indeed lead to unprecidently peace and a lower number of deaths from war.
But the weapon being used by non state actors is indeed troubling
Who got rid of hitler? Men with guns, or students holding placards?
we will see what senior trump does
hahahahahahahahahaha
What stopped wwii?
Technically, Hitler killed Hitler. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>
WITH A GUN
Checkmate.
hitler died in argentina
Two nukes
Two scoops
Yeah but we got anime out of them
Shouldve used more
No no no its like the three stooges
we hit them juuuuust right
The nukes dropped on Japan arguably saved lives, too.
Alot of lives
Maybe we could get more anime if we bombed NK. ๐ค
more would have died fanaticly defending the emperor (which i support)
And well, they were horrible cunts
If you can, always die for the emepror it is better then living for yourself.
*nods*
if we nuke NK we will get more horrifying fetishes like used school girl panty vending machines
Ew
Bad idea then.
yeah what we need to do, is carpet bomb the middle east
we should just send in the entirety of our navy seals
Don't we already do that?
evac israel, then pave it all over make it a massive parking lot
charge 20 bucks for parking
Well... mattis is doing amazing
world peace achived.
you forgot africa
Africia is self contained
*Looks to the hate-speech-room chat.*
kony 2012
Still back to the topic
I mean, I don't care myself, I'm just saying. lol
Ive just seen too many emotional arguments
Like how peace is having no weapons
Untrue.
Or how nobodys illegal
the second you ban all weapons
I will rise up with a baseball bat
and rule you all.
Alot of the leftist arguments are simply phrases that make you feel good
Yeah.
Make love not war for example
"Love Trump's hate."
Nothing intellectual about that. Just stubbord disregard for the reality
They say while hating Trump.
GG no re.
Love Trumps hate by attacking Trump supporters.
That never made sense to me
are the loving his hate?
While I could go on and on as to why guns are nessessary
Are they advocating for them to adore Man-emperor Trumps discontent with them?
yes they love his hate they let it flow though them
Also they can't meme because humor is not allowed.
like the feminists getting mad that the pussy hats are pink
Oh yeah. How have they not torn themselves apart from inner bickering yet?
they got made becuase it is a vagania and it discriminates against women whom have penises
Well humor is easier when you have no standards.
Are they mad that its pink now too?
Well rules
Well I am a woman with a penis and I demand rights to not have part of it cut off!
They added brown and black to the LGBT flag which annoyed a bunch of LGBT people.
Request denied.
BLM in Toronto (yes, Toronto) shut down a LGBT pride parade or two.
Okay before we derail it any further.
they were mad because the flag was a representation of all races and colors and blm was being self centered for being like "us too"
I remember an argument for guns. My argument is that when my property and family is threatened, ill shoot to kill.
They they went on a tirade abouut non lethal options
Relevant
It would help if civilians were actually allowed to have a lot of the non-lethal weapons the police have access to, and if it weren't virtually illegal for civilians to use non-lethal weaponry.
Or if it were more effective.
I heard something about how somewhere in Europe a woman got in trouble for using pepper spray on someone who was raping here.
I agree I have an extendable baton its like 150$ fine the first time I use it in self defense
The issue is, if you attack someone breaking into your home with a non-lethal weapon, you can get in a lot of trouble for it, because it's a lot harder to use the 'I feared for my life' argument. In the US fearing for your life is cause for deadly force, and if you use a non-lethal weapon, that can be used against you that you did not indeed fear for your life.
Thus, you get sued for assaulting and maiming whoever broke into your house.
I dont have the money for a gun
It's completely ass-backwards.
This is why castle doctrine is best doctrine
Make it look like you own one.
Or
have a rifle that is inoperable
and beat the fucker with it and say it jammed
The sound of someone racking a slider is scary as fuck.
shotgun slide, the single loudest "stop" known to man.
my stepdad only owns a mossberg for that reason he only has to rack a shell
clack clack "I SURRENDER"
Are they cheap?
Oh yeah
I assumed shotguns are not difficult to aquire.
Shotguns are cheap to get, I got a break action single tube shotgun
Well for you guys.
I doubt i paided more then 200
How bout those pumpactions like the missberg he mentioned
How much would that set you back?
$127
Ah im on mobile so
Id get one but I am disabled and so I cant rack and fire with one hand kinda useless
Ahh fair. And handguns are a bitch to aquire last I heard.
And well, cant make a sawn off
Im gonna buy a 1911 once I have enough disposeable income though
mossberg mav 88
200
$200
it makes sense when you realize barely any lgbt are sjws
Arnt those on the pricier ends?
not the black lesbian that is my wifes best friend
Brownings are pricey last I heard.
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