like you cant just shoot a guy in the face cos he steps on your lawn 😛

You dont get to shoot me and then jail me for shooting back

that can happen in some us states too

isn't that great

of course in the UK you will soon be arrested for owning a simple kitchen knife

because to quote one UK judge "Who needs a knife that big anyway"

I take my swiss army knife everywhere

you crazy murder

you got a license for that?

occaisionally working with computers.. gotta cut cable ties etc... also screw driver comes in handy

Ive had it since I was 12

What if you carry one large enough, boom no longer concealed

thats always been a law though... since WWII even .. no knife with longer than 6inch blade or something... its not like its a new law or something

can't have anything pointy in the UK. because why address the problem when we can just ban having freedom and just make everyone living in a padded cell

then everyone will be safe

Lol, you want everyone safe?

@wacka kitchen knife in your kitchen tho?

Keep them tied up and dripfed

I have this knife... hang on...

like this judge wants people actually get their kitchen knives point's filed down, and ban the sale of those knives in stores unless they dull the point

Fuck me, my hands are sore from 1 hour of chopping cabbages with a sharp japanese cleaver

I dont want to imagine doing that with a blunted one

i don't think a cleaver would count

just the point

Good point

no, its not a good point, thats the point. the judge doesn't like those points

WHats stopping them from cleaving then? You know their predesposition to decapitations

No I mean, it wont stop cleavers

have we gotten the point?

Or any other knife with two edges

Ohhhh just blunt the point, there no more stabbing

oh nothing. but its funny when people here talk about gun control and we go: "you'll have to ban knives next." and the left goes "no, we just want to be like the uk."

Speaking of UK

I got another friend who came back from studying pharmaceuticals in the UK.

She said it has to be the most depressing place shes lived in

this one is super sharp https://i.imgur.com/Qt1iqoH.jpg

How much did that cost?

Hmm, fuck.. If I cant get a gun I might consider getting a knife

I dunno my mother bought in some foreign country

But I dont want to be caught with one

I mean, a telescopic baton would work

its just for decoration, but its sharp AF .. you could drop a peice of paper on it, and it would cleave it in two

Hmm do you need to give it constant care or something?

but you can get guns here

just need a license

Like keep it from rusting

Well same here

But getting the license?

Good luck

nah its not super hard... unless you are a criminal or something 😛

Wasnt it the UK that said to shit your pants if someones gonna rape you

To gross out the agressor?

or if you want an AR-15 I think you need a small amount of training... also the bare minimum AR-15 is £3500

Is most of that tax or the actual cost of making one and getting it to there

I think its just profit 😛

Oh so demand then

cos ... well.. I dont think they sell many

oh

its not like they can buy in bulk from the US (I think its an american gun right?)

meanwhile one UK weapons company makes £17bn a year selling weapons to foreign countries

Armalite is an american company

Try convincing them that AR stands for Armalite

not sure i understand this https://twitter.com/qikipedia/status/1004332074122301441?s=20

"How much did she get ?" lmao

To be honest you guys are memeing to much with those knifes

If you have it home you are safe

Problem are ppl using knifes in work tho

I used to carry around knife before too

And even though i never thought using it as weapon you probably easily could

Anyway

Because of this

I noticed ppl cariing around sharpened scissors the other day

Realy stupid tbh

what for?

@zutt what do you mean memeing too much? Just telling exactly what a UK judge actually said.

Probably thought scissors dont count if they get searched

Now, it's not a law, probably won't be.

But the fact a judge even suggested it is telling

Well its more complicated

Right now there is crimewawe of knife crime all around london

And the top tiers of government are pushing all the hard work to lower tiers

Thats why this episode happened

Tory government is not willing to admit that constant cuts have been detrimental to public security

That's just it, it's a wave. These things happen. No need for everyone to lose their heads. Increase the number of pigs on the streets for a few months and give some ppl some proper hard centance. It'll soon die down.

So they are looking for scapegoat issue

Like kitchen knives

Actually i have read interesting piece on that

Apparently this all started thanks to immigration

The old british born gangs would just rough each other up

This is what happens when you use bandaid solutions that only punish law abiding citizens

But then ppl from africa came from countries where conflicts are solved with killings

And they started doing same things in gb

Which the rest of gangsters copied

Because they could not look weak

@Poppy Rider when your police don't have guns, you need like 8 officers for one knife wielding person. And still probably need to call in the special team with guns.

@Grenade123 they get the person alive most of the time thanks to this

also we stil lhave armed response teams 😛

@Grenade123 I do not want our cops armed as normal uniform. You don't need a gun you just need to know that you are not going to get sued for smashing someone round to head.

@wacka did I note mention that?

have you seen police at heathrow... they carry automatic rifles

Honestly in my experience the met cops were corteous and very professional ppl

The problem is they are understaffed

Stupid Yanks see that video of that bloke on the bike with a knife smashing the car window and say 'see, this is why you need guns.' completely missing the point that the bloke on the bike would of had a gun as well and just shot through the window.

And doing stupid bulshit like monitoring twitter

Yeah, cant go after rapists, lets arrest this guy for insulting someone

@zutt yes, very good. Meanwhile 8 other people got stabbed because your force is over worked, you now have one more person who was just hell bent on killing people taking of tax payer money in a cell. And if I call the police they may not respond because of all the other knife wielding people.... Which could be like 4 taking up a whole police force. When a tazer and a gun limits that down to just 2 officers per incident. And the first officer to respond can at least contain the situation.

Also, dont they have grenades in Sweden?

I heard grenade attacks happen there as well

Although the level of gun training most us cops get is way too pathetic.

Actually, there is an argument there as well

Granade except that their response times are ok

That since the average person is possibly armed, they are jumpier

When called they show up quickly

They are thaught to see people as potential criminals

i'v got no problem with pepper spray and tazers but I don't want cops carrying guns on the regula.

And well.. THe media isnt helping either showing them as racist in the US.

Then maybe solve the issue that made it a nessesity

No one wants to walk down the street surrounded by men in blue with mp5s.

Though I might be wired wrong... It only makes me want to take pictures

Anyway this current crime wave will not be solved by officiers carriing guns

You nead whole complex approach

Its the simplest really. Hope the potential criminals are rational enough to know that that TV in there is not worth 3 rounds in the chest

When the cops are armed to gangs have to keep up.

Hence why the common person must be armed

no, of course not. but banning knives doesn't solve it either

Most of those gangs are operating on selling drugs

Well, like the prohibition era when you could sell most firearms but not alcohol

Guess who could actually afford firearms?

Either cops or the Mafia

So legalize drugs somehow?

I mean that was a suggestion, worked with alcohol;

Or more like, banning alcohol didnt work

but i don't like a policy that means you need almost more officers than citizens, and the citizens are not allowed to then have the means to protect themselves from that force.

you have made citizens effectively prisoners.

Well you know how it goes, carry a gun, cause its easier than carrying a cop

not to mention police only show up AFTER a crime has been committed, maybe during if they are fast enough.

Stop and search needs to come back. I don't care if ppl shout racist. I'm white, I've been stopped countless times. Often with stuff on me that is illegal. Talk to the cops, explain or lie and they are good ppl. but if you can't explain your self, jail time or if you are a migrant, deportation.

Until there is 0 crime, people will have to rely on themselves first and formost

Illegal migrant?

Well that is just cause for deportation right?

legal or illegal. Out you go.

Legal? On what grounds then/

Breaking their terms of stay?

my life should not be forced to rely on some beat cop who may show up 10 minutes after i got shot, assuming i had the chance to call them.

Well didnt help that my dad suggesting giving them what they want.

Well what if they come back?

If you have chosen to come here for a better life and become a criminal you lose your right to stay.

So since citizens are not banished, migrants shouldnt either?

not at all.

We can't deport ppl born her, that does not mean we need to import ass holes as well.

Then whats the argument here then?

banish a yard worker immigrate for carrying around a hand rake?

Oh a migrant for carrying

Using hash punishment to deter this thing from happening.

One thing I learnt that the severity does not matter if you cant catch the offender

I think deportation would.

Well theres stuff worse than deportation

Damn Im not creative enough

No ifs, no buts. You commit a crime you get shipped out. You commit a serous crime you do time in jail then shipped out.

i'd call it unfair here to banish an immigrate here on a visa just because he smoked a little pot. OR committed any crime that was not violent, nor hurts anyone else.

should be the other way around

Yeah I definately missed the earlier point

why keep them in the country, costing you money, for a serious crime?

jail isn't free

To ensure they dont come back?

TIme in a prison is time you know where they are

Thats the logic behind it not that I support it

but you are just gonna ship them out after that time

Which leaves them free to sneak back in

And then its back to square one catching them again

Unless the border is secure enough

@GingaBomber You say it does not work but that is a value you can't measure. You don't know how many ppl did not commit a crime because they were afaid of the punishment. Just coz some ppl don't care doesn't prove that it doesn't work.

The jail thing sounds pretty sound till then

"do time in jail **then shipped out**"

i.e. "for serious crimes, you are gonna keep costing us money, THEN we will ship you out."

No I understand your point

3 meals and a cot for free if you commit a serious crime

But I am saying focus on securing the border first.

Stop these guys from coming back in

so better make it serious, because otherwise you don't get some guaranteed free lodging and food on the state's dime.

Well theres that sherrif that got in trouble for keeping them in tents....

Save money and make it harsh

Well see it this way, death penalty for drug smuggling here is death

Dosent stop most from doing it anyway

@Grenade123 If we are good friends with their home nation then paying the nation to lock them up if it's cheaper then that's fine with me.

Why? Cause they see the large number of drugs that make it through, and the money you make.

For every execution theres dozens if not hundereds that make it through.

You think Mexico wants their illegals back?

But I agree in a way, let the home nation deal with their miscreants

actually, i would think the corrupt government wants their piggy banks back.

its the cartels who don't really

Well they did let that caravan through

Seriously, buck up on the border

Liberals would know that guns pass through there

How else MS13 get their arnaments?

yay britain "despite brexit" firms still investing in UK https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/6/17433206/microsoft-underwater-data-center-project-natick

also its in scotland... so fried fish... two birds, one stone

i like how the default take is economic collapse

Well sorry to bring it to you

yeah "we're getting out of a protectist high tariff zone" ... we're doooooomed

^^

But overall the investment is almost nothing lads

Everyone is waiting for the negotiations to end first

Before committing

also the dropping pound due to everlasting low rates is also spurring more investment

Wacka are you listening

The investment is way down since brexit

Why do you think your gdp growth is 1% ?

Yes, coz of the back and forth of half in, half out. You wait.

Or was it 0.1 ?

Yeah

incorrect tho

Most investors w8

At least they are not selling

So i would count that as win

UK investment was down 3.3 in 2015 .. in 2016 it was up 0.7 and 2017 up 1.3

I get your logic .. but the data shows otherwise

Yeah and the data for 2018 ?

Fiscal year has only just started.

up 0.3 then down 0.2

https://ig.ft.com/sites/numbers/economies/uk

the quarters from jan 2017 to jan 2018
+0.3
+1.2
+0.8
+0.3
-0.2

that -0.2 ... thats what remainers look at and say OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44350407

Well we will see which way it will go soon enough

Isnt the final date somewhere in october ?

I doubt it... I imagine all we will hear is .. when any little thing isnt quite as expected it will be "thats all down to brexit.. if we didnt brexit every UK citizen would be a mutli millionaire by now"

should be june 19th or something

Well i suspect lots of ppl voting brexit should feel disappointed by now

2019

Honestly would not surprise me if they make you remain in customs union in the end

Just rename it

every fellow leave voter I speak to is only disappointed that we haven't left yet

Thats what i mean

what I like to do in those BBC articles... is go straight to the comments and order by highest voted 😃

the constant anti brexit default position on the BBC.. is clearly getting to people

My bet is corbyn pm by 2019

😔

thats actually a possibility ... if someone like UKIP splits the vote of the tories

I think the tories need to help out the lib dems more 😛

Ukip will not be needed tbh

They are split right now

And public hates that

Next election they will get murdered

its not needed... but if people start doing it as a protest vote... or just to point out the frustration over freedoms being stomped on... it could split the vote and labour might get in

which is a shame cos I just bought a property... and dont really want the gov to take it from me 😛

its going to take the rest of my life to pay it off 😛

and then some

the property is only 10m from Heathrow... Ive read some reports that said , although rental value might go up, they figure the price might not necessarily go up much, after this new announcement of a heathrow expansion of an extra runway

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/unidentified-man-takes-knee-during-anthem-at-trumps-celebration-of-america-event/ar-AAygmTt?ocid=sf

What's the point of this