Message from @GingaBomber
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If you have chosen to come here for a better life and become a criminal you lose your right to stay.
So since citizens are not banished, migrants shouldnt either?
not at all.
We can't deport ppl born her, that does not mean we need to import ass holes as well.
Then whats the argument here then?
banish a yard worker immigrate for carrying around a hand rake?
Oh a migrant for carrying
Using hash punishment to deter this thing from happening.
One thing I learnt that the severity does not matter if you cant catch the offender
I think deportation would.
Well theres stuff worse than deportation
Damn Im not creative enough
No ifs, no buts. You commit a crime you get shipped out. You commit a serous crime you do time in jail then shipped out.
i'd call it unfair here to banish an immigrate here on a visa just because he smoked a little pot. OR committed any crime that was not violent, nor hurts anyone else.
should be the other way around
Yeah I definately missed the earlier point
why keep them in the country, costing you money, for a serious crime?
jail isn't free
To ensure they dont come back?
TIme in a prison is time you know where they are
but you are just gonna ship them out after that time
Which leaves them free to sneak back in
And then its back to square one catching them again
Unless the border is secure enough
@GingaBomber You say it does not work but that is a value you can't measure. You don't know how many ppl did not commit a crime because they were afaid of the punishment. Just coz some ppl don't care doesn't prove that it doesn't work.
The jail thing sounds pretty sound till then
"do time in jail **then shipped out**"
i.e. "for serious crimes, you are gonna keep costing us money, THEN we will ship you out."
No I understand your point
3 meals and a cot for free if you commit a serious crime
But I am saying focus on securing the border first.
Stop these guys from coming back in
so better make it serious, because otherwise you don't get some guaranteed free lodging and food on the state's dime.
Well theres that sherrif that got in trouble for keeping them in tents....
Save money and make it harsh
Well see it this way, death penalty for drug smuggling here is death
Dosent stop most from doing it anyway
@Grenade123 If we are good friends with their home nation then paying the nation to lock them up if it's cheaper then that's fine with me.
Why? Cause they see the large number of drugs that make it through, and the money you make.
For every execution theres dozens if not hundereds that make it through.
You think Mexico wants their illegals back?