Well, like the prohibition era when you could sell most firearms but not alcohol

Guess who could actually afford firearms?

Either cops or the Mafia

So legalize drugs somehow?

I mean that was a suggestion, worked with alcohol;

Or more like, banning alcohol didnt work

but i don't like a policy that means you need almost more officers than citizens, and the citizens are not allowed to then have the means to protect themselves from that force.

you have made citizens effectively prisoners.

Well you know how it goes, carry a gun, cause its easier than carrying a cop

not to mention police only show up AFTER a crime has been committed, maybe during if they are fast enough.

Stop and search needs to come back. I don't care if ppl shout racist. I'm white, I've been stopped countless times. Often with stuff on me that is illegal. Talk to the cops, explain or lie and they are good ppl. but if you can't explain your self, jail time or if you are a migrant, deportation.

Until there is 0 crime, people will have to rely on themselves first and formost

Illegal migrant?

Well that is just cause for deportation right?

legal or illegal. Out you go.

Legal? On what grounds then/

Breaking their terms of stay?

my life should not be forced to rely on some beat cop who may show up 10 minutes after i got shot, assuming i had the chance to call them.

Well didnt help that my dad suggesting giving them what they want.

Well what if they come back?

If you have chosen to come here for a better life and become a criminal you lose your right to stay.

So since citizens are not banished, migrants shouldnt either?

not at all.

We can't deport ppl born her, that does not mean we need to import ass holes as well.

Then whats the argument here then?

banish a yard worker immigrate for carrying around a hand rake?

Oh a migrant for carrying

Using hash punishment to deter this thing from happening.

One thing I learnt that the severity does not matter if you cant catch the offender

I think deportation would.

Well theres stuff worse than deportation

Damn Im not creative enough

No ifs, no buts. You commit a crime you get shipped out. You commit a serous crime you do time in jail then shipped out.

i'd call it unfair here to banish an immigrate here on a visa just because he smoked a little pot. OR committed any crime that was not violent, nor hurts anyone else.

should be the other way around

Yeah I definately missed the earlier point

why keep them in the country, costing you money, for a serious crime?

jail isn't free

To ensure they dont come back?

TIme in a prison is time you know where they are

Thats the logic behind it not that I support it